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SPECTRE | 11/6/15 | Final Trailer on Page 126! | Twitter reactions coming in, STID 2.0?

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Hasn't Mendes already ruled himself out of the next one? My understanding is the writers are aiming to write a plot that will make the next two movies story-related somehow.

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If people love the movie and they want to see another one from the same people who brought you Skyfall, then that would mean a lot to me.

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So I would have to be convinced that I could do something that I loved and cared about as much if I was to do it again. I think the great risk of repeating oneself is that one doesn’t have the great store of ideas that you have when you first tackle a project.

I know that John Logan and Sam Mendes have come up with a plot for another one, which takes the pressure off because these films take up a lot of time.

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Isn't that a small multiplier. Even HP2 didn't decrease that much from HP1.

Yea... The difference between the first two Harry Potter seems small, unadjusted. If you adjust that you'll see that there is a 86M difference between the first two movies.Adjusted, the first Harry Potter has a 123M opening weekend, while the second one has a 117M opening weekend.My point is that Bond won't follow the Harry Potter trajectory and decrease in opening weekends, especially after Skyfall. You can clearly see that the Bond with Craig keep increasing in Opening Weekends, and this one will too, but it won't reach that high.Look at Bond OW's for example: 40M, 67M and now 88M. The first two ended at the same spot, meaning that they were pretty front loaded. They finished at 167 (40M ow - x4) and 168 (67M - a weak x2.5 multiplier). Skyfall has a x3.5multiplier, which puts it exactly between the two of them, but this is mainly because the word of mouth that carried it so long. After the first Bond was a success, the second one was front-loaded but was weaker. Now that this Bond is a success, you can imagine that the next one will be front-loaded, but until it's in 3D, it won't get close to Skyfall numbers because I simply don't think they can repeat that move and make another movie like Skyfall, and I simply doubt Bond 24 will get Skyfall's word of mouth to reach 300M (like Bond 2 reached Bond 1).Well yeah, front loaded but weaker finish.
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Yea... The difference between the first two Harry Potter seems small, unadjusted. If you adjust that you'll see that there is a 86M difference between the first two movies.

Adjusted, the first Harry Potter has a 123M opening weekend, while the second one has a 117M opening weekend.

My point is that Bond won't follow the Harry Potter trajectory and decrease in opening weekends, especially after Skyfall. You can clearly see that the Bond with Craig keep increasing in Opening Weekends, and this one will too, but it won't reach that high.

Look at Bond OW's for example: 40M, 67M and now 88M. The first two ended at the same spot, meaning that they were pretty front loaded. They finished at 167 (40M ow - x4) and 168 (67M - a weak x2.5 multiplier). Skyfall has a x3.5multiplier, which puts it exactly between the two of them, but this is mainly because the word of mouth that carried it so long. After the first Bond was a success, the second one was front-loaded but was weaker. Now that this Bond is a success, you can imagine that the next one will be front-loaded, but until it's in 3D, it won't get close to Skyfall numbers because I simply don't think they can repeat that move and make another movie like Skyfall, and I simply doubt Bond 24 will get Skyfall's word of mouth to reach 300M (like Bond 2 reached Bond 1).

Well yeah, front loaded but weaker finish.

I don't see any reason why they can't make another Bond flick that is as good or better than Skyfall. I am not sure if Skyfall was any better than Casino Royale. In fact, Rotten Tomatoes rates CR higher than Skyfall.

The producers have obviously decided that they want to make a quality product. The arthouse direction of Quantum of Solace fell flat in many ways, but the effort was there.

Why is Skyfall being nominated for more awards and taking more money than the previous two? I think that has more to do with timing, the rise of and acceptance of Daniel Craig, pent-up demand after a four year break, the Adele song, the 50th anniversary etc., than the quality of the movie, compared to Casino Royale. So, I fully expect another Bond movie of the same quality.

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