baumer Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Ingmar Bergman was a Nazi... He also had impeccable taste in film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashrendar44 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I think its just a really stupid provocation to say INGMAR BERGMAN WAS A NAZI when he didn't carry on being a nazi for the rest of his life. It's not provocation, it's the truth...He WAS a Nazi at some point in his life. What's false about that affirmation? You're a Bergman fan, dude? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashrendar44 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) He also had impeccable taste in film. Have you ever seen one of his movie for hence? Edited September 20, 2013 by dashrendar44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 It's not provocation, it's the truth...He WAS a Nazi at some point in his life. What's false about that affirmation? You're a Bergman fan, dude? You can still like his films. And keep in mind, being a Nazi meant he was part of a political party. It doesn't mean that he practiced killing Jews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Have you ever seen one of his movie for hence? Of course. Virgin Spring (the film Wes craven's Last House on the Left was modeled after) and The Seventh Seal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashrendar44 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 You can still like his films. And keep in mind, being a Nazi meant he was part of a political party. It doesn't mean that he practiced killing Jews. So it was okay to be a Nazi just because he didn't kill jews himself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 It's not provocation, it's the truth...He WAS a Nazi at some point in his life. What's false about that affirmation? But what was your point? That he's an asshole? Fuck him? He sympathized nazis like most kids in the 30's did, found out about the horrors they committed, stopped, and lived his fucking live. He obviously regretted it, and as far as I know he didn't commit race crimes so who cares? What were you trying to say when you responded to baumer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashrendar44 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) Just because Bergman loathed Citizen Kane like him, he's Baumer's "Hero". A "hero" that was a Nazi as well. And I don't like how people excuse Nazis like "they couldn't do anything about it, they were all magically brainwashed" like they weren't responsible at all of their thoughts and actions in that very special era, getting away with it. Especially when Nazi political parties are still relevant today in Europe especially Scandinavia and Eastern Europe. Are they not responsible of their thoughts too? That's all. Edited September 20, 2013 by dashrendar44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Nelson Mandela beat his wife but he's a hero to the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashrendar44 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) Personal Domestic abuse = Being a Nazi militant. Yeah right. I think we should better stop there. Edited September 20, 2013 by dashrendar44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Just because Bergman loathed Citizen Kane like him, he's Baumer's "Hero". A "hero" that was a Nazi as well. And I don't like how people excuse Nazis like "they couldn't do anything about it, they were all magically brainwashed" like they weren't responsible at all of their thoughts and actions in that very special era, getting away with it. Especially when Nazi political parties are still relevant today in Europe especially Scandinavia and Eastern Europe. Are they not responsible of their thoughts too? That's all. The difference is that they didn't know of the war crimes then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Personal Domestic abuse = Being a Nazi militant. Yeah right. I think we should better stop there. Oh, so he was a militant nazi? Do we have evidence of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashrendar44 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) So it was okay to be a Nazi sympathizer...At least, he was not a friggin' Bolchevik... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/441057.stm Bergman's brother was a Nazi militant tagging Swastika on jew neighbours house. His father was a right-winger. Bergman was enamoured with Hitler as well saying he was fascinated and seduced by their ideology. Edited September 20, 2013 by dashrendar44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 So it was okay to be a Nazi sympathizer...At least, he was not a friggin' Bolchevik... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/441057.stm Eeeerrrr.. he's just saying what the people thought back then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 You guys might want to stop before someone takes this thread out behind the shed and puts a bullet in its head. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Citizen Kane was a little boring to me. Not interested in movies like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Just because Bergman loathed Citizen Kane like him, he's Baumer's "Hero". A "hero" that was a Nazi as well. And I don't like how people excuse Nazis like "they couldn't do anything about it, they were all magically brainwashed" like they weren't responsible at all of their thoughts and actions in that very special era, getting away with it. Especially when Nazi political parties are still relevant today in Europe especially Scandinavia and Eastern Europe. Are they not responsible of their thoughts too? That's all. Dude, we're talking movies here. I'm not getting into the Nazi thing. I had no idea what political party he aligned himself with and I honestly don't care. Everyone here knows how much I hate Citizen Kane. So if he hated it then he is a hero to me. If you want to get political, try the politics thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Personal Domestic abuse = Being a Nazi militant. Yeah right. I think we should better stop there. You started it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashrendar44 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) You started it. No Jack started it. Complacency and indulgence. That doesn't surprise me why there are still Nazis parties raging all over Europe more than 50 years after WW2... Edited September 20, 2013 by dashrendar44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Can we just stick to movies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
