Cooper Legion Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, KP1025 said: You're both right. I was thinking that all the negative attention around the world (especially the calls for boycotts) would distract from the actual excitement for the movie in China. But I guess that news would be censored anyways? I am no expert on this topic, but I would guess that the more calls there are from non-China countries to boycott over HK stuff, the more “patriotic” it becomes to see it in the mainland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, Arendelle Legion said: I am no expert on this topic, but I would guess that the more calls there are from non-China countries to boycott over HK stuff, the more “patriotic” it becomes to see it in the mainland. Most people in most countries might think independence is a good thing. But Chinese think that is going to destroy their home and country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) If Mulan does $600mn, Disney will get $125mn Is it better if they sell the film to a local player in buyout. Local distrubutor get 36%. Right @A Marvel Fanboy @dada or there is some rule stopping that. Edited December 6, 2019 by Jedi Jat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 12 hours ago, Gavin Feng said: Most people in most countries might think independence is a good thing. But Chinese think that is going to destroy their home and country. Most people in most country tend to feel quite the same the minute it concern part of their country (Canada right now is refusing entry to the Catalan separatist leader), independent tend to be good for others far away, but if Alberta, Texas, Québec, Catalan's, etc... want it, people from the country that would break it up tend to talk quite against it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jedi Jat said: If Mulan does $600mn, Disney will get $125mn Is it better if they sell the film to a local player in buyout. Local distrubutor get 36%. Right @A Marvel Fanboy @dada or there is some rule stopping that. Nope. 25% applies for both quote release and buyout release. Mulan is a Disney production, so it is automatically a quote release. China won't allow it to be sold as a buyout release. Also, it is Disney... they will never sell their films to another distributor. Disney is the only studio in the WORLD that always (well, at least, almost always) finances, creative controls, and distributes its films 100% by itself. DISNEY DO NOT SHARE Edited December 6, 2019 by A Marvel Fanboy 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 Jumanji 3 is underperforming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Jedi Jat said: If Mulan does $600mn, Disney will get $125mn Is it better if they sell the film to a local player in buyout. Local distrubutor get 36%. Right @A Marvel Fanboy @dada or there is some rule stopping that. 6 minutes ago, A Marvel Fanboy said: Nope. 25% applies for both quote release and buyout release. Mulan is a Disney production, so it is automatically a quote release. China won't allow it to be sold as a buyout release. Also, it is Disney... they will never sell their films to another distributor. Disney is the only studio in the WORLD that always (well, at least, almost always) finances, creative controls, and distributes its films 100% by itself. DISNEY DO NOT SHARE Still. 25% of 600 mill is 150mill. Not 125 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, A Marvel Fanboy said: Jumanji 3 is underperforming It is. Very disapointing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, fmpro said: Still. 25% of 600 mill is 150mill. Not 125 Thy don’t get 25% of the service fees that contribute to the nominal 600. Or, iirc, the pre-VAT gross? I seem to recall a discussion about how for a nominal 100M, it was something like 8% service fees, 8% VAT, and 25 of remaining 84 = 21% of top line went to studio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) On 12/5/2019 at 12:30 AM, Arendelle Legion said: Looks like PS may end at just 17 for Jumanji. Maybe 19 if the D-0 night is unusually good. If so might be just 28-33 without notable reception. 18 minutes ago, A Marvel Fanboy said: Jumanji 3 is underperforming At least it won’t underperform my yesterday expectations that badly +11M from 3:00 to 15:00 is weak sauce though. Will it even have the night strength to hit 3x PSm? Edited December 6, 2019 by Arendelle Legion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, fmpro said: Still. 25% of 600 mill is 150mill. Not 125 25% is of Nett Gross. Reported Gross - Ticket Booking Charges = Gross Gross - GST/VAT : Net 25% of Nett is roughly 21% of Reported Gross. Endgame Reported Gross: 4.24Bn Gross: 4.018Bn Disney: 921.3mn Theatres: 2.1Bn Govt/Others: 996.4mn Edited December 6, 2019 by Jedi Jat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Arendelle Legion said: At least it won’t underperform my yesterday expectations that badly +11M from 3:00 to 15:00 is weak sauce though. Will it even have the night strength to hit 3x PSm? Looks like yes. Low 60s. Could hit lower end of my 28-33 range with a good sat bump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserHN Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 19 hours ago, KP1025 said: Still early but as long as they don't mess up the marketing (and there's no more bad press about Liu Yifei), Mulan should make Top 3 for the year in China. In China, the press for Liu Yifei is good. Opposite of what her image is in HK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserHN Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 What's the hype in Weibo for Mulan's newest trailer? The last one, if I remember correctly, is one of the most reposted among Hollywood movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP1025 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) Maoyan score should be coming soon, but in the meantime Jumanji 3 starts at 6.3 on Douban. For comparison, Jumanji 2 has 6.9 on Douban. Edited December 6, 2019 by KP1025 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Big drop for Frozen 2 as well. Kills 800mn chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP1025 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) Yikes. Jumanji 3 starts with 7.9 on Maoyan (Jumanji 2 is currently at 8.6). Ad Astra starts with 6.6. Edited December 6, 2019 by KP1025 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Jumanji ugh. Under 500mn Worldwide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jedi Jat said: Jumanji ugh. Under 500mn Worldwide. To base that on Maoyan rating is crazy. Even if grosses also comes in a bit short in China Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, fmpro said: To base that on Maoyan rating is crazy. Even if grosses also comes in a bit short in China Pre-sales are dull in USA. Almost likely to fall under 200mn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...