riczhang Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Let's get real here...financially is all that really matters to the only people that really care. I have no idea what planet someone must be on to pretend this is a John Carter level of disaster. WB didn't spend more money on this film than John Carter...yet are going to make substantially more money. Yet...it's a bigger disaster? You're not going to be successful in explaining to me how that makes any sense.John Carter was always going to be a disaster and when it bombed no one was upset, no one was surprised. Not very much of a disaster since we all saw it coming. Hobbit was always going to be a box office super hit, and when it disappointed it was an unanticipated and unprepared for disaster which IMO is a bigger one than JC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 That is really disapointing for HobbitWas it the marketing that went wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowhite Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) John Carter was always going to be a disaster and when it bombed no one was upset, no one was surprised.Try telling that to Rich Ross.You people are f'ing nuts. No offense. Pardon me, I work with numbers, and I work in the film industry, so this reaction makes no freaking sense to me. Edited December 22, 2012 by kowhite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Sure WB will be worried.... it was supposed to be a surefire money-machine the earnings from which could compensate for other flops. Just because this will break even in the long run doesn't mean WB executives are jumping up and down in their chairs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Ugh, I'm officially throwing in the towel on Hobbit redeeming its underwhelming OW as far as my expectations went. I can't believe hoping it makes 300 is what it's come to now. *entering Gollum's cave for isolation and waits for insanity to take over* 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Hope Les Mis breaks out after this dreadful weekend. Or any movie at all breaking out is fine as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I hope Skyfall, LOP and WIR get back some screens. Perfect holiday movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Hope Les Mis breaks out after this dreadful weekend. Or any movie at all breaking out is fine as well.Yeah, this Friday is unusually bad. 2012 will still end up ahead of 2010, but it's going to be closer than I wanted if this keeps up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Try telling that to Rich Ross.I amend my statement to anyone rational. anyone who poured 250 million to make the movie alone is evidently not thinking straight.Even disregarding that I think we all knew very early on this was gonna be a mega flop. I doubt even Ross was surprised JC did as bad as it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Wang Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Ok, so I'm still in Kingwood for now and I am talking to one of our managers that stayed behind after the buy out, and he got the numbers for me. The Hobbit2D - 3473D - 168Total - 515Jack Reacher - 292This Is 40 - 234 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Hope Les Mis breaks out after this dreadful weekend. Or any movie at all breaking out is fine as well.Unfortunately I believe 2012 will end on a less than stellar note. Django only has a slim chance at really "breaking out" and I don't think Les Mis will have the screen count. (Then again if Lincoln has taught us anything it is not to take that lightly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Damn, November went exactly how I thought it would and it looked like the box office was in great shape heading into this month. December has just sucked though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Rallax, how did hobbit do last Friday at your theatre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Unfortunately I believe 2012 will end on a less than stellar note. Django only has a slim chance at really "breaking out" and I don't think Les Mis will have the screen count. (Then again if Lincoln has taught us anything it is not to take that lightly)Les Mis is in 2808 theatres probably on ~6000 screens. It's got plenty of screens. I do think thdy're planning to expand on the 28th for the weekend as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowhite Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 That is really disapointing for HobbitWas it the marketing that went wrong?As much as I loved the film, clearly it just didn't gel with the mainstream the way the predecessors did. And clearly the expectation was that it would. I'm guessing to some degree it wasn't really the marketing, but the film itself. I don't get it...loved it...but maybe it did need to be something new to really achieve. Maybe the split to three films didn't help...regardless if I prefer it. And maybe...The Hobbit...was never going to achieve LOTR levels of success no matter what they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowhite Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I amend my statement to anyone rational. anyone who poured 250 million to make the movie alone is evidently not thinking straight.Well, in defense of Ross...HE didn't decide to put $250M into that film. He just had to sell it (which he did a poor job of though).That being said...it's not $250M. It's $300M. Ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 My grasping at straws theory: Maybe everyone was too busy with end of the world parties and plans to go to movies tonight, and tomorrow we'll see massive jumps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowhite Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 My grasping at straws theory: Maybe everyone was too busy with end of the world parties and plans to go to movies tonight, and tomorrow we'll see massive jumps. Don't hold your breath...we'd like to see you keep posting after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Wang Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Rallax, how did hobbit do last Friday at your theatre?No clue. I'm drunk right now talking to these guys finding out how bad it is now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Ok, so I'm still in Kingwood for now and I am talking to one of our managers that stayed behind after the buy out, and he got the numbers for me. The Hobbit 2D - 347 3D - 168 Total - 515 Jack Reacher - 292 This Is 40 - 234 Midnight(Friday)[saturday] 2D - 304(744)[960] 3D - 128(405)[464] Total - 432(1149)[1424] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
