Rudolf Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Frankly, I don't see how the last two movies equal so much larger a dip than Rat and Wall-E back to back you are right Pixar was exactly in the same situation in 2008 Rattatouille was the lowest adjusted Pixar Wall-E the second lowest UP and TS3 were good than Cars2 and Brave defined new lowest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) They're probably not going to reach 300m with much normalcy. Too much competition. Edited August 15, 2012 by tribefan695 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryan Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) As I said before, Pixar's box office glory day will come back with MU and The Good Dinosour Just thinking about how big a well done dinosaur film can be, drives me crazy Jurassic Park , there comes the sequel you deserve Edited August 15, 2012 by Bryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letsuseournoggin Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) per se it is still an A-list animated movie DOM but pixar is starting to lose the international audiences (look Japan) pixar has lost the status of unquestioned No 1 It was never really unquestionably number 1 from an OS perspective. Domestically, yes, but other studios can claim a stronger OS presence than Pixar. Edited August 15, 2012 by Letsuseournoggin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udolpho Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 It was never really unquestionably number 1 from an OS perspective. Domestically, yes, but other studios can claim a stronger OS presence than Pixar. Pixars position as number 1 was always based on it's ability to launch succesfull original movies - it's had 6 original movies pass $500m WW - far more than Dreamworks (2), Illumination (1) or Blue Sky (erm..0). The trouble for Pixar is trying to compete in a Summer market dominated by animated sequels. Something like Brave would probably have fared much better with the same sort of Autumn/Winter release that Up got in Europe. But then you win some and lose some - next year Dreamworks have Turbo going up against MU and DM2 and that'll end up faring even worse than Brave has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryan Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Yeah, but I guess Turbo will beat both DM2 and MU in markets like Russia and China Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iEye Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 ^^ I'm curious to know where you think MU will rank in comparison to other animated franchises? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoot Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Brenda Chapman column in NY Times http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/08/14/how-can-women-gain-influence-in-hollywood/stand-up-for-yourself-and-mentor-others Sounds like she's got beef!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) Sounds like she's got beef!! Somewhat, I guess. At least she seems happy with how the film turned out and had her own group of people in Pixar supporting her. The way she talks about what happened, it sounds like it could make for an interesting dramatic film, especially with how she says she was still key to steering the film in the direction she wanted after getting booted off. I hope she does more great things with Lucasfilm. Edited August 16, 2012 by tribefan695 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Wasn't Brave always going to be a hard sell because it was the first Pixar movie with a female lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Wasn't Brave always going to be a hard sell because it was the first Pixar movie with a female lead? Tangled beats Brave in all OS markets (even in Japan) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Blu Ray details http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Brave-Blu-ray-3D-Release-Date-Details-and-Pre-Order/11105 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iEye Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Wasn't Brave always going to be a hard sell because it was the first Pixar movie with a female lead? I think some of they're other movies (Ratatouille, UP) were harder sells so I'd have to disagree with that thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I'm finally seeing this tomorrow. Unfortunately its dubbed, but I can manage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telcontar Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Tangled beats Brave in all OS markets (even in Japan) In the end the difference is going to be only 90 million (roughly). So, that doesn't disprove what Mojoguy said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Homer Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Frankly, I don't see how the last two movies equal so much larger a dip than Rat and Wall-E back to back The difference is that Rat and Wall-E got great reviews, so they didn't hurt the Pixar brand as much as Cars 2. Brave was a step up, but some of the bad will generated by C2 probably hurt its box office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem2x3 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) Tangled beats Brave in all OS markets (even in Japan) Tangled was superior in every way except for the name of the company releasing it. The difference is that Rat and Wall-E got great reviews, so they didn't hurt the Pixar brand as much as Cars 2. Brave was a step up, but some of the bad will generated by C2 probably hurt its box office. Cars 2 hurt it? How so? It opened perfectly in line with what Pixar movies open to. It fell in line right between Wall-E and the first Cars. This was never a 300M grosser. Those movies are rare. Only FN did it as an original (correct me if I'm wrong) and the closest thing since was Up. After that, Monsters Inc and TI as far as Pixar films go. You really thought Brave deserved to be bigger than those movies? Those are 2 of the best animated movies all time. Brave was just another good movie. I don't want to rain on Brave too much -- but come on. There's Toy Story, Finding Nemo and UP -- and then all the rest of the Pixar movies -- and then Bugs Life and Cars 2. Edited August 29, 2012 by Misadventures2x3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I don't think Up is all that great, it falls apart towards the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire of Themyscira Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I liked Brave better than UP and some of the TS movies I think. All I know is that the Incredibles is in my top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddeeee Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Brave is far better than Up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
