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This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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That One Valerian

Unforgettable | April 21, 2017 | Warner Bros. | Trailer on First Post

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Hollywood Reporter calls it a guilty pleasure while Variety is mixed but states Katherine Heigl is great.

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43% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9 fresh 12 rotten

Better start than expected

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5 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

43% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9 fresh 12 rotten

Better start than expected

 

I honestly thought this would be single digits, lol.

 

Good for them, seeing it Sunday after cocktails. 

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Every year, we get a film where crazy woman or man enters the life of another woman or man threatening to take it apart due to their infatuation with either the person or their significant other. They’re always are released in September and released by Sony’s Screen Gems. Ever since they released Obsessed in 2009 they’ve bending…wait Warner Bros? What are you doing with an Obsessed ripoff?

 

What’s the deal with Warner Bros. trying to steal Sony’s thunder? Last month they attempted to do that with CHiPs in an attempt to cash in on the success of Sony’s 21 Jump Street and now we have Unforgettable which is NOTHING BUT A CASH IN ON SONY’S OBSESSED! FOR SHIT SAKE THE TIME OF THE RELEASE DATE BARELY EVEN DIFFERS!

 

Obsessed Release Date: April 24th, 2009

 

Unforgettable  Release Date: April 21st, 2017

 

For God’s sake, Sony ripped off their own film nearly every year in the month of September with no but black actors. But Warner Bros? This is a new low for you guys to distribute this.


 

 

https://rendyreviews.com/movies//unforgettable-review

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LOL, Beyoncé fans are annoying. Obsessed was neither original or a box office hit.

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20 hours ago, Napoleon said:

LOL, Beyoncé fans are annoying. Obsessed was neither original or a box office hit.

 

Well it made 123 million in revenue and close to 40 million in profit from a 23 million production budget and a small 39 million world releasing cost (pretty much no oversea release), in the industry it must be considered a nice hit, 42% ROI.

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Unforgettable is the feature directorial debut of long-time producer Denise Di Novi (Batman Returns, Crazy, Stupid, Love.), stars Rosario Dawson and Katherine Heigl and was made on a slim, $12 million budget. The thriller is debuting in 2,417 theaters and industry estimates have the film targeting a $7 million opening, which appears to be a safe estimation based on what we're looking at. Direct similarities in the $7 million range are tough to find as films such as last year's When the Bough Breaks and The Boy Next Door have opened with double that estimate, and IMDb page view data at the same point in the release cycle tends to reflect that comparison... almost...

 

While we aren't holding our breath, Unforgettable is pacing well behind the likes of The Boy Next Door as well as behind 2013's Halle Berry starrer The Call at the same point in the release cycle, but it is pacing ahead of When the Bough Breaks, though that September 2016 opener appears to be more noise than any kind of real signal. That said, keep that stat in your back pocket as well as the fact the average opening weekend for a similar feature* opening in this many theaters is $11.4 million, which at this point seems outside of this film's reach, but is worth noting. For our forecast, however, we're anticipating an opening over the industry estimate, right around $8.2 million for the three-day.

 

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4285&p=.htm

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22 hours ago, Napoleon said:

LOL, Beyoncé fans are annoying. Obsessed was neither original or a box office hit.

Of course Obsessed wasn't original but it made $68M in 2009, adjusts to $79M, either is more than other Screen Gems thrillers like No Good Deed, The Perfect Guy, and When the Bough Breaks.

 

Heigl could always act, her career tanked because she was chasing the America's Sweetheart stardom, which suited her talents but not her personality. I really wonder if the trajectory of rom-coms at the box office this decade would have been different if she'd handled her time on top better, she was showing all the signs of slaying in that genre until audiences turned on her.

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Yeh, Obsessed was definitely a box office hit.

 

I remember everyone being really shocked on the BOM forums when it opened to $28m. 

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I hear the end of this movie is hilariously bad

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This wasn't good. 

 

A lifetime film with two good actresses. 

 

It's really silly, a few good laughs though. Unintentional of course. 

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Wow, this was bad. I mean, really, really bad, so bad that it can't even join the "it's so bad, that it's good" category. I have no idea how this has a higher score than The Boy Next Door considering that it has several bigger problems. Who the hell did the edition of this movie? It is between this, Bye Bye Man and RE6 for worst edition of year, the direction is awful, and the movie looks so cheap that can't even be considered as a movie from Life channel. Jesus, it doesn't even have humor, if you're going to make a stupid movie as this one, at least put a lot of humor to make it tolerable, there's not worst than a dumb movie that takes itself too seriously. The only good thing here is Heigl's iconic acting. This, and When the Bough Breaks joins the list of sexual thrillers that are just stupid. Far behind The Boy Next Door, and Obsessed that are dumb fun. 

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