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Those opening weekends were all about marketing/hooks. They did their job. People showed up. They were intrigued. But you're ignoring their horrid second weekend drops and negative WOM. Off it's massive opening, Man of Steel should have finished up at $325-$350M. It topped out at $291M. Batman vs Superman was even more front-loaded and sank like a stone even harder than Man of Steel. Those all made for quite the discussions here. In the case of Man of Steel, it directly resulted in Batman v Superman happening instead of a Man of Steel sequel. The numbers that matter (those subsequent drops after it's opening) literally show he wasn't the most popular actor in the DCEU. Otherwise we'd have had sequels to Man of Steel by 2015 as originally planned in between Man From UNCLE sequels. People lie. Numbers never lie.
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Funny you mention Steel Magnolias (which was a solid commercial hit), I suggested a piece recently about it having a legacy sequel. Most of the main cast is still alive and its audience has grown considerably since '89 thanks to home video and TV. If Sony announced a sequel tomorrow, you'd get a lot of positive feedback I'd argue.
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I think it's two fold. The subject matter was too off-putting for half the country and the marketing didn't justify why they shouldn't put that aside and support it. Came across like they were patting themselves on the back from the start. On the other as pointed out by several others before me, it's lead can be quite nasty and on the Holier Than Thou side of things on Social Media. Hard to shit on half the country for how they vote and turn around and ask them for their money? But ultimately do I think homophobia was at play? Normally I wouldn't play that card but... yeah. I do. Everyone is at fault on this one.
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)
filmnerdjamie replied to Cap's topic in Numbers and Data
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Weekend - 07/29-07/31 | Super Pets 23M
filmnerdjamie replied to Issac Newton's topic in Numbers and Data
We knew it was coming though. Peele's brand has been a Bill of Goods after Get Out, and audiences took note. -
Haven't the slightest idea why fans keep insisting Warners is in the wrong regarding Cavill. They most certainly are not. People vote with their wallets and Man of Steel, Batman v Superman and Justice League all failed to meet financial expectations nor were they received positively by audiences/critics. Cavill just never took off in the public's eyes as Superman, and he refused to come back unless he got paid the fee he felt he was owed. Hence how he bailed on the Shazam cameo at the zero hour. Sincerely hope fans finally clue in on the obvious and accept the reality that is staring them blankly in their faces. But... they won't.
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It was never realistically going to hit $70M+ after the divisive reaction to Us (outside of Lupita's performance) plus the straight-up negative reactions to The Twilight Zone revival he produced/headlined* and Hunters. Plus the very questionable marketing materials for Nope. This was destined for a fall comparative to Us. I won't lie. I had this as low as $35M. So I'd say anything $40M+ can be perceived/spun as a win. Barring good word of mouth which is very much up in the air. We're seeing it tonight and I can't wait. *By multiple accounts, he wasn't that involved creatively. But he most certainly was using his Get Out goodwill. One can't have it both ways. It's entirely fair to hold this against him.
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We bought our tickets the moment they were available (a month or so back?) That same screening (IMAX Friday 6:00 PM) only has four tickets sold as of today. Two of those are ours. Universal isn't treating this like a winner in the slightest and I've felt zero excitement. Compare to Get Out and Us, it's night and day.