The Panda

I’m thinking there was the occult, and they were going after Peter, and I also think they’re behind Collette’s death. I’m just more prone to thinking most of the freaky stuff was created from the characters guilt.

I don’t think it’s fair to say it doesn’t have a point. Because it clearly does, it’s the fact you have to digest a lot to reach that point (and I would say some of the thematic content is a bit jumbled, some of it could have been streamlined a bit). I would say a mainstream audience member who doesn’t care about analyzing a film for its themes would miss the overall ideas because they’re pretty we layered in the film. Not sure if I’d call that a flaw in the film or a flaw in mainstream audiences though.

Seeing horror in a crowd rarely enhances the experience when the movie isn’t cheap junk. The only good horror movie I saw in theaters where the crowd enhanced the experience was IT, maybe it would have in Get Out as well but I saw that at home originally. I’m intentionally waiting to see AQP for example at home because I figured the crowd would ruin it.

I really enjoyed this movie. It gives a continual sense of dread, and it plays with a different kind of psychological fear, the fear that comes from guilt. I saw that as one as one of the primary themes from the movie. Collete’s character feels a sense of guilt, she blames herself for how her daughter turned out by letting the grandma see her. She feels guilt for the animosity she had for Peter, and the way she had treated him. She feels guilt for the death of her daughter. She feels guilty for the occult going after Peter. I reckon at the end she feels guilty for the husband dying. Slowly this guilt just continues to build, as she gradually goes more insane, and it feeds into her fear. You see the same thing happen to Peter, who’s guilt continually builds to the point where he buys into the mystical stuff (while the dad never seems to buy into it), and it continually builds, with it climaxing at literally him being dragged to hell. Through all of this guilt the haracters blame each other, avoid responsibility, and you see how trauma and grief tears a family apart. Im not sure how this ties into the hereditary theme, of how things pass on within a family. Maybe it’s supposed to be separate but I think it’s supposed to tie into this theme of guilt, trauma and grief. Logistically, my interpretation was that the bulk of the supernatural stuff was manifested in the minds of the characters. The only exception is I think the occult characters killed Collete, dug up the grandma and placed her in the attic (maybe Colette played a role as well) and I don’t think Peter is necessarily possessed at the end (I think the character simply believes he is), so when he is crowned eighth king of hell he is in a way accepting the blame and consequences from his guilt. The film as a whole is highly effective in the way it’s made, and I fully understand the Oscar push for Collette now, she is phenomenal in this movie. Aster proves himself as a master of mood setting and really setting a foreboding scene of dread that seeps into you.

There were quite a few serious scenes where my audience started snickering at the film. Laughing at it takes away the responsibility to actually contemplate some of the gravitas to a few of the scenes.

1. Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again 2. The Incredibles 2 3. Christopher Robin 4. Roma 5. First Man 6. A Star is Born 7. Mary Poppins Returns 8. Widows 9. Mary, Queen of Scots 10. Bumblebee

I rarely have this problem, this case seems more like an exception

There’ll be a certain scene near the end that’ll surely get the seniors fired up. Be prepared for that.

Ehh, doubtful. This comes out early enough that it’ll be the one that has to give up some screens for Poppins, which gets the full holiday advantage. It’s usually the movie that comes out prior that gets hurt

Yup. There were points where I couldn’t tell if it was from the movie or the audience. Not being into the movie doesn’t give people an excuse to mess with the experience for others. It was so annoying.

The movie is good because of the cast, everything else is pretty lackluster. The cast was good enough imo to make it overall enjoyable.

I’d definitely see it, but it may be worth seeing post-theatrical run. I had an annoying as hell audience. There were a few people intentionally making sounds to mimic a certain essential sound in the movie. People complaining, somebody stormed out of the theater right at the end and then it got a loud boo from someone. Saw it with 5 people, I think I was the only one of the group that liked it, but they were casuals.

Still trying to process this, but I’ll say I liked it and screw my audience for booing, continually squeezing wrappers and making popping sounds throughout the movie thinking they’re clever (and I’m meaning their popping sounds, not the movie’s)

Hereditary is not going to have good WoM, lololol. Great movie though

Wooh, that was a trip!

I never got around to seeing Sacred Deer. I guess the fact I really didn’t like The Lobster made me indifferent to seeing it.

To be fair, I’ve been waiting to know if he made it to the Moon or not for 50 years! Was it faked? Did he make it? Was he replaced with a moon alien? Don’t believe the mainstream mediasz!!1!

But what’s the point of not making it?

Yeah I feel like people jumping on the Collette train were doing so way to early. Unless the field turns out barren I don’t see how she makes it, in fact I think Blunt would have a better chance with AQP (even though I think if she gets nominated it’ll be for Poppins). Horror is a hard sell for the academy, even with Get Out’s success. Kaluuya wouldn’t have been nominated if Get Out wasn’t a BP contender, and Get Out was a much more accessible film, was a hit and had commentary that helped it feel more important than other horror.

As much as I like the Witch, and think Hereditary looks good (no comment on It Comes At Night), I don’t think any of those movies are mainstream enough in their appeal to do more than they did.

There’s always a first!

Im bumping my predict up to 60m OW / 330m DOM

I wonder if he makes it to the Moon, super tense stakes there

It’s silly. I get that previews were early for this one, but breaking precedent just causes confusion.

Happy for Docter, he’s my favorite of the big Pixar names.