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There is some truth to that. Holidays were even further in 2003. Christmas fell on a Thursday as opposed to Wednesday in 2002 and this year. And the Friday jumps were even bigger: http://boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2003-12-19&track=returnoftheking.htm

Did some one notice, DoS's thursday is less than Kong (5.387)

Defn possible. If Hobbit get's a 60% jump on Friday(AUJ got 52%) and a multiplier of 3.5 it will end up with 28. That could go up or down by a couple. But if it's close Warner Bros will report a pumped up Sunday for sure.

Hopefully not. I think unlike Kung Fu Panda, HTTYD's charm/novelty does not start and end(to a significant degree) with a handful of characters. It's has a much larger and extensive universe with potential of new stories, the burden of which can be shared by many characters apart from the lead.

If Harry Potter can go from SS's 317mil to CoS's 267mil despite good reviews, normal running time and as strong/increasing fan-base i don't see why Hobbit's drop from 303mil to 250-260mil should be considered a failure. I do think they left some money on the table because of how AUJ was received, but DoS is doing as expected. If it has been genuinely well received, it will show in DoS's dvd/blu-ray and TABA's box office.

I think we have been jumping to conclusions The DoS "apocalypse" started Thursday night. 'What went wrong with Anchorman' has already begun! I want to discuss why 'The Wolf of Wall Street' is performing like a piece of shit.

Agree. Watched it back home in India. Pretty much everywhere starpower can trump content when it comes to boxoffice, but nowhere more than in India. 5 out of 100 films succeed and almost all of them have to have a super star. Dhoom 2 opened huge, was loved in villages and went to became a blockbuster. There are so many great films that can be picked. I guess they went to wikipedia and picked the then biggest hit.

Frozen's tuesday to tuesday holds: 12/03 - 2.50 mil 12/10 - 2.46 mil 12/17 - 2.03 mil aweshome

They killed the possibility of other middle earth sagas - McKellen said last year that a Gandalf movie was a possibility, parts from appendices like 'The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen',etc. Even if they do get made, the goodwill and profit they garner will be less than if The Hobbit was 2 more well received movies.

KK and AUJ lost Jackson some female audience, and that showed in DOS demographics even though they added Legolas and Tauriel.

Now DOS vs King Kong is seems to be a much fairer comparison

AUJ vs DOS Friday 37.12 vs 31.19 -16% Saturday 27.74 vs 24.43 -12% Sunday 19.75 vs 18.02 -9%

I was dissapointed with the lack of and the manner of vehicular damage show when Kong is on a rampage. The cars and buses looked toyish and made of tin with Kong going "clang clang clang" on them. This is what happens when the T-Rex in the Lost World smashes his head into a bus 0:19 to 0:29 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVIS31ghLNQ This is an agent from Matrix Reloaded jumping on a car 1:08 to 1:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b6S8tpQtdw This is Kong smashing a bus 2:45 to 2:53 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diLE4umndNM Fiber glass scrunch > Tin clang

I think that effect would show in smaller absolute numbers and low friday jump thanks to new competition. Would expect the growth on saturday to remain same percentage wise, albeit with smaller numbers.

LexJoker is not talking about the final gross and worldwide bo. The question is why would a movie with so much going for it open to only 9 million. (1) For one, compared to summer December is not known for massive openers. I think it's the 'wait for the holidays' patience that people have. Especially if people know it's going to be a long movie. I think King Kong was a summer movie head to toe. (2) I think setting the movie in 1933 kept some people away. 1933 King Kong was not set in 1863. Should have been set in the modern world and been with the times. That helps people imaging "what if it happens to me", and they can relate to what happens if the beast moves in their city.

Last weekend 8 of the top 10 movies jumped more than 50% on Saturday. This weekend 2 of the top 10 jumped more than 50%. (Frozen and Thor 2 - 51% vs 75% last Saturday) Defn a muted Saturday for all.

With the liberties that studios sometime take with the Sunday estimate, won't be surprised if WB show a 19% Sunday drop for DOS and give it a weekend of 75 mil. Especially if they(ahem..along with me) hope the weather played a role on Saturday, and those folks will turn up the next day.

It's a 98% jump for Frozen. Last Saturday it was 124%. CF jumped 36%. Last Saturday it jumped 53%.

Depends on what role the weather played in the low sat jump(if estimates hold) The bigger it's role, better the hold on sunday

Reaching 70 mil does not need a miracle. A drop of 30% on Sunday will give it 70+. Reaching 250 doesn't need one either. Same multiplier as the previous film will do it. CF being higher was a given since before either film released.

they were long and slow. he could have done better.

He didn't have to make them 3 hours long though

Some reason to tear up if DOS's weekend emds up less than CF's opening day

What happens after she watches a Christopher Nolan theatrical trailer? Does she go to the front of the theater and pose like Miley Cyrus?

A 24 million Saturday and a 30 percent drop on Sunday will give Hobbit 71. If it has the same multiplier that Hobbit 1 had, even though it's a little better received, it will end up with 252. Hobbit 1 made 714 million internationally. If this one matches it, the worldwide gross will be 714 + 252 = 966 million. Not really a flop. And 1 billion would still be on considering it's opened bigger internationally.