Hilderic

It will be remarkable (in the wrong way) if it does $167m with KFP2 at $165m and HTTYD and KFP at $217m and $215m respectively.

You haven't answered my question... But I guess the conversation is not worth pursuing, neither for me, nor for you.

Were people involved genuinely saying a "deep" re-imagining? They said re-imagining, for sure, but "deep"? I know Jolie spoke about a rape metaphor but this is more linked with her non-film activities (chairing the conference on rape etc.) than with the marketing for Maleficent. And even if they were, were people here believing that and expecting it to be a "deep" movie? This was essentially always going to be in the vein of Alice and Oz, neither of which is regarded as a "deep" movie. It is directed by a production designer and so visuals were always likely to be the (only) strong point. It is moreover aimed at small children.And is the hatred towards Maleficent genuinely driven by a disappointment over lack of "depth"? Are people here going to the cinema and coming back claiming "oh dear, why was there no high-level philosophical discussion in there"?

Transformers (or does that count as an unintentional comedy?) is my example. A movie currently boasting a RT score which is almost a third of Maleficent's and yet, being targeted at young males, apparently being spared the level of virulent hatred Maleficent gets. I'm not saying it does not get any hatred, but some members seem to be of the "who-cares-about-the-rest-as-long-as-the-explosions-are-good" persuasion, while Maleficent gets called an abomination. Why are they turning a blind eye for Transformers but not for Maleficent? Even better, why can't they understand that others (say, its target audience) may be turning a blind eye for Maleficent?

I thought Metacritic was generally regarded as more accurate round here. But I can look for other examples, if you want.Edit: And comedy being much more subjective is...subjective.

Any prediction for final numbers?

Do you think it will beat Rio 2 OS in the end?

Sorry but this forces me to reply. The lack of posts derives from the fact that there was no information on the movie. It's not a big franchise with constant rumours pushing the thread on across hundreds of pages. When the trailer for HB2 was released, many people claimed they enjoyed the first movie, which is an example of leniency towards a movie with pretty much the same negative critical reception as Maleficent (at least as recorded by Metacritic) from a group of individuals which may be regarded as part of the target audience of the former but not the latter. Again, we never talked about numbers.

Sure? It seems to me that people here actually said they loved the movie so I thought that a huge success would be welcome. But there's no need to drag this conversation so I'll stop.

You asked for an example of leniency towards a badly-received movie of which this board may be the target audience. I provided one. We never talked about numbers.

Oh the tragedy of different opinions!

Transformers, just one page ago.Oh, and some days ago the board seemed generally happy about a sequel to Horrible Bosses, a movie with pretty much the same score as Maleficent on Metacritic.

Or perhaps this board is not part of its target audience and is therefore exaggerating the hatred while being noticeably more lenient towards other equally or more terrible movies of which it is the target audience?

The hatred for Maleficent is reaching baroque levels.

This looks a lot like the Wall-E clips.

The movie is still in theatres in the US and the DVD was released in March.

With $15,488,531 Maleficent passes X-Men and becomes the third highest grossing summer blockbuster of the year so far in Germany. It should soon beat Amazing Spider-Man. This week it outgrosses both Oz ($15,222,137) and Snow White and the Huntsman ($15,084,870).

I can't stop looking at the background. Too funny.

Thank you both.

Is this having some kind of legs? Is Planes going to murder it?

Perhaps Maleficent can stay above $1m?

Is 20m admissions possible? That would be a nice round number.

Good that there's someone who cares.

It had 14 new territories this week, according to Deadline. It may be a little bit from some or all of them.

I agree. Incredibles 2 feels more "natural".