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  1. Very slightly above average. Maoyan score is 8.6/10.. average films is around 8/10. Just for comparison. 9.0-9.1 is considered above average/solid 9.5 and above means pretty incredible Coco is at 9.6. Dangal was 9.8 if i rmb correctly. xXx was at 9.0-9.1 TLJ around 7.6
  2. Eh, RO has above average WoM, good multiple from OW and even OD multiple from presales. Despite the crap chinese title of "Hero Thief Number One: Star Wars outside story", i think it did extremely well. Disney did not even put much effort for the mkting and premiere of Rogue One, unlike TFA and TLJ. They got complacent with Donnie Yen and Jiang Wen, especially the former in a huge spotlight role. I think it did not perform up to everyone's expectations, but i don't think it flopped. If you know what Disney movies and roles..Disney is contacting Donnie Yen and Jiang Wen to do now...you will know what i mean.
  3. Not bad. Coming compared to TLJ's 70% drop last weekend. Local movies tend to hold better during weekdays but Hollywood Movies and Animations jump more during the weekend.
  4. Plus the other male Co-star in this film.. Max Zhang recently had another flop in China (The Brink), you guys can google it. Legendary picked 2 wrong chinese to be casted. Not forgetting that John Boyega is a negative draw in China..no one likes him there..unfortunately. Mitigating factor is that China loves monsters and robots... I still think 150m tops in China IMO.
  5. WoM for Jumanji isn't as strong as expected. With Wonder and Secret Superstar opening next week, it is going to be tough. But i think legs will definitely be much stronger than TLJ, maybe 70 - 80% drop. Really depends on presales of openers... I think both Secret Superstar and Wonder are sleeper hits which means "meh" OW but good legs, which means Jumanji's 2nd weekend may not be that weak. But still too early to say IMO.
  6. Weird, I watched it and I really felt it will appeal to Chinese audiences.
  7. There is a local movie released this week with a very similar title as "Secret Superstar". I think this might confuse many audiences especially in the 2nd and 3rd tier cities.
  8. Huh? Just comparing 2 openers and showing the importance of release date. Don't be too sore.
  9. TLJ had a much better release datr than Jumanji. Jumanji has to compete a handful of new openers. TLJ opened wide with 0 big openers last week Switch the 2 dates, and TLJ will not even get 100m yuan.
  10. Doubt so. There are local films opening with stronger presales next week. Think that is what Gavin is referring to.
  11. Expected by people who knows their stuff, but most still realistically expected it to beat Rogue One up until maybe a month or 2 ago. Now it is trailing R1 daily and the gap just keeps getting bigger.
  12. Coming Friday. But presales isn't really anything jawdropping, 2nd to a local film now. But DJ's movies are walk-up movies anyways.
  13. Yup exactly. You should post this, along with the Variety artivle and what some of us said...in the weekend thread.. whereby people are blaming TLJ's China mumbers on "lack of marketing". How is this..."lack of marketing"? It is definitely one of the most marketed...HLW film in China in 2017(even though it technically released in 2018 but the publicity and premiere was prior to 2018).
  14. Deadline has another update: http://deadline.com/2018/01/insidious-the-last-key-last-jedi-jumanji-weekend-box-office-1202236009/ Saturday AM: Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle (SONY), 3,801 theaters (+36) / $10.8M Fri (-39%)/3-day: $35.8M (-28%)/Total:$244.1M/ Wk 3 Insidious: The Last Key (UNI), 3,116 theaters (0)/ $12.7M Fri/3-day: $25.9M/ Wk 1 Star Wars: The Last Jedi(DIS), 4,232 theaters (0)/ $6.7M Fri (-65%)/3-day: $23.6M (-55%)/Total:$572.5M/ Wk 4 The Greatest Showman (FOX), 3,342 theaters (+26) / $4.1M Fri (-22%) / 3-day: $14.1M (-9%)/Total: $77.2M/Wk 3 Pitch Perfect 3 (UNI), 3,458 theaters (-10)/ $3.3M Fri (-50%)/3-day: $10.5M (-37%)/Total: $86.2M/ Wk 3 Ferdinand (FOX), 3,156 theaters (-181) / $2.3M Fri (-47%) /3-day: $8.9M (-22%)/Total: $71.6M/ Wk 4 Molly’s Game (STX) 1,608 theaters (+1,337)/$2.3M Fri (+193%)/3-day: $6.6M (+187%)/Total: $13.8M/ Wk 2 Darkest Hour (FOC), 1,733 theaters (+790)/ $1.8M Fri (+6%) /3-day: $6.1M (+13%)/ Total: $28.1M/ Wk 7 Coco(DIS), 1,894 theaters (-210) / $1.6 M Fri (-45%)/3-day: $5.7M(-22%)/Total: $192.2M / Wk 7 All The Money in the World (Sony) 2,123 theaters (+49)/ $1M Fri (-40%)/3-day: $3.6M (-34%)/Total: $20.2M/Wk 2 The Shape of Water (FSL), 804 theaters (+48) / $828K Fri (-25%) /3-day: $2.8M (-20%)/Total: $21.3M/Wk
  15. I was too optimistic, looks like 71 for today. Will not be surprised if actuals released tomorrow is lower. Starting to really fall behind Donnie Yen/Jiang Wen's Rogue One.
  16. I think TLJ might hit 75 - 82 today. I mean.. Ex Files isn't exactly a great movie and there are not a lot of options, and there are literally 0 big openers this weekend. Plus TLJ's screencount at night is dominant..
  17. It is not about total gross, its about the multiple. Not many expected a sub 3x multiple with this Dec release date. If it opened to 150m OW, this result will be impressive.. but a 220m OW with a final of below 650m means WoM is mixed, even skewing to negative. Doesn't bold well for Episode 9, and many audiences may not trust RT critics' score for SW going forward, and might wait for WoM.
  18. I don't mind Exfiles doing well (even though the first 2 were crap, and I have 0 plans to watch any of them), but having a total that beats Youth? I am not a huge fan of Feng Xiao Gang and not a huge supporter of Youth, but at least I appreciate his hardwork. Any1 here watched Ex-Files 3? how good is it?
  19. I think Justice league did as well or even better than TLJ in some Asian countries like Malaysia, Indonesia, Phillipines aand Singapore.
  20. Not true. i am pretty sure Disney's marketing expense for TLJ in China is much more than Rogue One, and definitely less than TFA. But I don't thinking marketing is an issue here. TLJ has Multiple Posters in almost every cinema in the country, and Disney also attached TLJ trailer before almost all the movies in December... including Youth which earned big bucks, and even Ex-files. Furthermore, Variety says it best: Disney, which boasts its Shanghai theme park and a muscular consumer products business in China, is in prime position to do so. “The Last Jedi’s” marketing campaign attached trailers to all of the major local blockbusters during the blackout period. An exclusive collaboration with Wanda, China’s leading cinema chain, promoted the “Star Wars Art Zone” in 110 multiplexes nationwide. A traveling event visited eight malls in the top seven box office cities. Before Christmas, stars Daisy Ridley and Mark Hamill, director Rian Johnson and producer Ram Bergman went to Shanghai to promote the movie ahead of a red-carpet event and China premiere at Shanghai Disney Resort on Dec. 20. Ridley used that visit to shoot cover photos for an issue of women’s magazine Grazia China, which is now out in time for the movie’s opening weekend. Other marketing tie-ins were with Pepsi, Samsung and Renault, while digital partnerships were struck with Alibaba-owned streaming platform Youku, which launched a “Star Wars” zone on New Year’s Day; with Alibaba’s Taobao e-commerce and ticketing platform; and with Pi Tu, a leading camera-filter app. So I don't think marketing efforts/costs can be used as excuses here. You will see Jumanji beat it very soon, despite less marketing. Coco and Dangal didn't really have much marketing too. By the way, Rogue One was the SW film that didn't get marketed much in China. Maybe Disney was complacent about having Donnie Yen and Jiang Wen in the film, and from my understand, the premiere date and venue for Rogue One were not exactly great, and the Chinese actors were pretty upset.
  21. What do you mean by that? Please cite some examples.
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