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I hadn't thought about Christmas's impact on OW for Passengers. I think Passengers will do well, and even with Christmas eve will do better than 40M OW, personally. Sony was presenting it as the top of their slate for the year in Russia and was practically purring over it at CinemaCon. I think, having just seen a Bourne trailer in a theater (and not having been particularly excited about it or not before that) that it will do above 40M OW as well. It looked interesting whether you have watched all the Bourne movies or not. (That coming from someone who has seen only one of them.) I can't judge Warcraft at all. Assassins Creed I think will do well, if not huge numbers, over 40M OW anyhow. I think Dory and Rogue One are slam dunks. I expect Independence Day to do over 40M. Not sure about Suicide Squad, but probably. I hope Star Trek does, I like the new Star Trek (despite flaws.) ...So, here goes nothing: The 7 we already have Passengers Bourne Assassins Creed Dory Rogue One IDR Suicide Squad Star Trek Fantastic Beasts La La Land Magnificent Seven The Secret Life of Pets Conjuring 2 Ghostbusters and, um, three of the following? Bad Moms Tarzan Warcraft Dr Strange

XA just opened to over 75M OW, shouldn't it be in that category? Or am I reading your list wrong? edit.... OK, two day not three day weekends... got it.

Just because their trademarks were rejected doesn't mean the other guy's trademarks stand, if the word 'emojis' was in the public domain for a decade before the German guy 'trademarked' them. IMHO

OK, I can see that. But since TMNT and Alice have such a big theater commitment, wouldn't those be pulled first for Dory? I agree Dory will be big. I also agree about the 4th of July, I just don't know how much XA can make between now and then.

I'm a newbie to this, and pulling for this movie besides, but if they pull X-Men Apocalypse, which is still number one by a distance on Pulse and MT, what are they going to replace it with? Down line when something popular cycles in, sure. But until then, what would you do if you owned the theaters? I'm hoping the fact that (to me) the movie was a ton better than the reviews made it sound will make it less front loaded than prior X-Men movies. I'm not betting on it, because I know how much I don't know. But I am hoping.

I'm rooting for Passengers. I wish it weren't coming out so close to Rogue One.

I sure tried to find it on Imax and couldn't, before I was informed here that Disney had them for Alice by contract.

Lucky you! I got Bourne and Tarzan. Bourne looked pretty good. I'm reserving judgment on Tarzan. Were the trailers good?

not sure if serious... But there are XA copies out there, I see them touted on twitter. I haven't clicked on any links to judge quality, though.

They still haven't opened in China. Won't until June 3. :/

Francis spoke about it as recently as March (ish) saying it was probably the furthest of his projects along. I THINK he mentioned Jen but am not sure.

Marita is kinda a spy one, too, and Sony wanted/wants her for this: http://pagesix.com/2016/04/10/jennifer-lawrence-front-runner-to-play-blonde-bond/ Way back when it was first announced some site (I think Variety) said they were aiming for 2017 for Marita. I think the date is clearly slipping, though.

I'd prefer it if Aronofsky were doing it with Jen, tbh. And isn't Marita supposed to come out in 2017 as well? If this does, I kind of doubt that will happen since Jen will have her current Aronofsky project and then this one in 2017.

Lucky for her there are billions of people in this world, I guess. And I disagree to the point where I find that statement humorous, fwiw.

Yeah, I guess it is coming out Nov 2017. I wonder if it was suddenly put 'on track' after Sony bought the rights to 'Blonde Bond' (the last goodnight) and said Jen was their first choice to play the part? It didn't really seem to be going anywhere before that, and there are definite similarities in the story lines. Although, Fox's announcement that they are putting it out in Nov 2017 didn't specifically mention Jen, Francis Lawrence mentioned her being in his 'upcoming project' Red Sparrow, in a recent article.

People don't know that unless they go see it. I'm hoping word of mouth gives it good legs but clearly the reviews hurt it.

Yes, and if you google it there are write ups of exactly what it means. My personal opinion is that you don't lose anything by having it described over seeing it play out. Others can chime in if they disagree. I really liked the movie, too. I did have to suspend some disbelief on cgi but since we are starting the story with mutants, I figured suspending some disbelief was always going to be a given.

XA was only ever expected to do about 700M, so they aren't really directly comparable. No one was saying it would be the biggest of the year, going in. I'll let Snyder off the hook as soon as Superman starts being Superman again, instead of an emo murderer. But yeah, I'd say my comments on critics probably apply there as well. I just didn't personally care, there.

Yep. I've only just started. Others got in before me. I have a ways to go, as I still consider them accurate. I don't think there is a 'conspiracy' etc, but I do think a bunch of the lesser ones get a 'cool guys think' idea going and can't let up, and apply it across the board, making them kinda useless, and often damaging. "Two part movies are bad" "CBM's are passe except for [biggest blockbuster]". They really DO read more similarly than CBMs watch, imho. Your mileage is free to vary.

Movie was fun, too many people read the reviews. I'm getting CBM critic fatigue. They are so repetitive, it is almost like when you've read one, you've read them all.

Well, this is interesting. All I can say is I found the movie to be a lot more entertaining than reviews led me to believe it would be, and it sounds like people who actually saw it - rather than those kept away by reviews, actually liked it and rated it well. I don't know how powerful word of mouth is vs reviews, but I guess we'll see. I'll wait to see today's numbers before I change my four day from around 90 million.

I thought it was doing poorly overseas, as well.

Ouch.

By the way, if you see XA at Arclight, they have a follow up piece on the making of the movie, or at least they did at the Arclight I went to. Beyond that, the Bourne trailer was more interesting than I expected, and, sadly, the Tarzan trailer did not look as good as I had hoped. (I think they did the Apes badly, which, given how much they feature, is truly unfortunate.) Haven't given up on it yet. I do wonder if ARCLIGHT has issues with the summer slate, though, since they announced in theater that they will be showing Jurrasic Park in June, and a bunch of other old block busters over the summer. https://www.arclightcinemas.com/en/locations/los-angeles/sherman-oaks/showtimes/?ItemId={4D3EE2D0-2337-4C56-A103-B5CA6FB924D9} Maybe it's just a thing they do that I never noticed before.