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SUICIDE SQUAD | 421.7 M overseas ● 746.8 M worldwide
kswiston replied to kayumanggi's topic in International Box Office
SUICIDE SQUAD makes an estimated $38.0M overseas weekend, down 35.3%, for a $310.4M overseas / $572.6m global total. #SuicideSquad -
Spider-man in 2002 was first run of that type I can remember, just without the summer weekdays. The only $400M domestic films we had before then were Star Wars, E.T., Titanic and the Phantom Menace. Star Wars and E.T. were released in a different era and had multiple re-releases. Titanic was a marathon like you said. The Phantom Menace came out in the tail end of the 90s era when blockbusters were starting to see larger opening weekends, but were still expected to have more than a 3x OW multiplier.
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Weren't a lot of people of the opinion that boxoffice.com's ~$85M OW/$175M DOM prediction was on the high side for Deadpool? Tracking the week or so before was definitely lower than $85M. Deadpool pulled a TED, but on a bigger scale.
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~$100M OW and over $300M domestic for Iron Man was pretty big, especially since many people had never even heard of Iron Man the year before. IIRC, Iron Man's opening was briefly the 10th largest of all time (beaten by Indy 4 a couple weeks later), and was the second best opening by a non-sequel after Spider-Man. TDK definitely overshadowed that though.
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It's just really hard to get terrible legs in August. 88 films have opened over $15M in August not counting Suicide Squad. Here is the list of films that have had worse legs than those required by Suicide Squad to get to $300M Fantastic Four (2015) Alien v Predator The Last Exorcism Halloween (2007) Halloween 2 (2009) The One Direction Film Even Fantastic Four's legs gets Suicide Squad to $292M, and Suicide Squad isn't going to lose a third of its venues this weekend like F4 did.
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If this weekend in on the poor side (say $18-19M), it could miss $280M by the end of the following week, with a 50-55% drop on the weekdays ($9-10M) and a $9M fourth weekend. But even in that pessimistic scenario, you have Labour Day the following weekend. At worst, the 4-day Labour Day drop is going to be 20% from the previous 3-Day weekend. So figure: $241.5M going into the weekend and $259.5M as of Sunday (Aug 21st) with the terrible $18M weekend. $9M Mon-Thurs Next week and $9M during the Aug 26-28th weekend for a total of $277.5M $4.5M in the following weekdays and a 4-day Labour day total of $7.2M (-20%) That's $289M as of Labour Day being fairly pessimistic. The film won't just stop making money after that either. Batman v Superman made $11M after its $5.5M fifth weekend.
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If you are comparing across years, you have to start considering exchange rates as well. A number of those $1B+ films from 2012-2013 fall under $1B if you were using the current rates. Iron Man 3 would have lost something close to $20M a piece from Russia and Mexico using spring 2016 exchange rates instead of spring 2013 rates. You would probably get a similar result for Brazil's gross. That's basically the difference between it and Civil War worldwide (granted Civil War did get a $70M bump in China).
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Suicide Squad? It won't be anywhere near that. Germany and Japan are the only largish territories left, with no release in China. Domestic/International split last weekend was 48%/52%. Final international split will be somewhere between 53-55%. My guess is 54%
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SUICIDE SQUAD | 421.7 M overseas ● 746.8 M worldwide
kswiston replied to kayumanggi's topic in International Box Office
So around $350 OS now that China is out of the picture? -
Trades and Box Office sites hyped Civil War in the few weeks leading to release, and then we started seeing those early reviews half way through April. I think that a narrative was built up with regards to it blowing past a disappointing Age of Ultron. Even when the post-previews opening weekend didn't support that, people were stuck on Quality = more money. Hence expecting better legs that never came. Hopefully we remember all of this when Infinity War launches and keep expectations in check.
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FINDING DORY | 542.3 M overseas ● 1028.6 M worldwide
kswiston replied to kayumanggi's topic in International Box Office
Suicide Squad won't come anywhere near $530M overseas. Even $400M is out of reach with no release in China. -
I think Deadline is lowballing a bit, but Sun to Thursday drop for Suicide Squad (73%) was pretty similar to those of Bourne (75%) and Star Trek Beyond (74%) over the past two weeks. A bit over 13M like they are reporting would fall between the Friday increases of those two films as well. Based on that, I'm guessing $46-48M unless Friday's bumped over $14M.