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Everything posted by kswiston
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I am confused why you keep using gross production budgets, when it is pretty obvious that tax incentives/breaks are pre-factored into film budgets. Also, Avengers kicked off a general growth of the superhero genre internationally. Especially in China. There's a pretty clear line of before and after The Avengers for all superhero films. Especially in China.
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I don't think that it's an accident that MCU international grosses went through the roof as soon as Disney took over. Also, ignoring the fact that it is very unlikely that Marvel would still be independent by now if Disney didn't snap them up, and independent MCU would have had Perlmutter ruining things. RDJ would have gotten the boot. Feige might have bailed by now due to his conflict with Permutter. We wouldn't have some of the films we are getting recently. Definitely not in the forms that we got them.
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Jurassic World II OS Thread
kswiston replied to CaptainJackSparrow's topic in International Box Office
There is something wrong with Universal's China figure. Saturday was in the low 40Ms. The film should be ~$74M over 2 days. How is it supposed to make over $50M today? -
China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
kswiston replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
Looks like JW2 more or less ended IW's run. -
Jurassic World II OS Thread
kswiston replied to CaptainJackSparrow's topic in International Box Office
I don't think that Fallen Kindom has much of a chance at matching that drop domestically. -
Jurassic World II OS Thread
kswiston replied to CaptainJackSparrow's topic in International Box Office
What is the point of talking about 600M worldwide grosses when Fallen Kingdom will pass that without the domestic take? -
Wasn't last weekend boosted by a holiday in China? Infinity War's total in China is already past where people were figuring that it would end up after that second weekend. EDIT: Seems like Infinity War was the only film to increase from Thursday, and that everything else was way down. Given the fact that the openers didn't really make much, I take it that Thursday had some special circumstances, and you were mis-projecting things based on that.
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Jurassic World 2 > Infinity War in China
kswiston replied to Brainbug's topic in China At The Box Office
Based on presales so far, I am confused why so many people think that these two will be particularly close. JW and AoU being close doesn't mean that much for the sequels IMO. So out -
2.65M matches up with the 2.7M estimate that EmpireCity gave for the leading film.
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China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
kswiston replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
A decent number of them get releases. BR2049 released, both Kingsman films released, even Alien Covenant released. Deadpool and Mad Max are the recent ones that got skipped over. Suicide Squad got skipped, and it was already PG-13. -
Even 28 seems like wishful thinking given the weekend. That's a 30% bump. EmpireCity thought that this weekend (or Fri/Sat specifically) would be a positive surprise looking at what I assume was presale numbers. We ended up getting a worse Friday than many were already expecting. Maybe Star Wars/Solo just has terrible walk up business?
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I don't think that having underestimated a new film or decade+ later revival of a sleeping franchise means much when judging the prospects of a sequel. People underestimated TDK, The Avengers, Jurassic World, TFA, and pretty much every huge break out film out there. They then proceeded to overestimate most of their sequels.
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Rogue One only opened to a bit less than 135M overseas, and then had winter holiday legs. Solo has no holidays and Jurassic World 2 opening in many markets 2 weeks from now. If Solo is down 30%+ this weekend from R1, I see no way for Justice League numbers to happen, even if the domestic take is not a disaster. Comparisons between Solo and R1 are just going to get worse as we get farther along.
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China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
kswiston replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
665M domestic is a lowball. IW should be around 630M domestic by this coming Monday. It will make more than double this weekend's 3-day after that. Nothing major comes out until Incredibles 2. -
Presales Tracking Thread(Maoyan, Taopiaopiao etc)
kswiston replied to Olive's topic in China At The Box Office
People here also had TLJ at like $70M at one point in the presales analysis cycle, so we'll see where things land.