Johnny Tran

Well they picked the wrong one. Your avatar got snubbed in the Best Picture category. Wall-E was nominated for it.

It's cool Black Panther was nominated for Best Picture but no Coogler tells me they don't REALLY think it's a great film.

Your posts haven't been worthy of anything more. Patty Jenkins herself praised Snyder and thanked him for his contributions. Jason Momoa recently wrote a thank you to Snyder. This report that you claim is "false" (with zero evidence to offer) states that Wan sought Snyder's opinions on the movie and it's story/characters and did not like what Whedon did with the character. Nobody is trying to take credit away from Patty Jenkins or James Wan. All anyone has done is either post facts or a report that came out yesterday. You haven't provided anything other than BvS had a terrible drop. Okay, cool. It still made $873M and it's well known there was studio interference. What does any of that have to do with what Patty has said or Gal has said or Jason Momoa has said or the report about Wan.

I could not agree more and that's all I was saying. Some people will hate Snyder no matter what but I opt to give credit where it's due and it is clear that patty and wan both asked for zack's input on their respective projects.

Who said Wan wasn't the primary reason? Of course he is. The reports are only saying that he worked with Snyder on some things, got his opinion and that wan didnt like what Whedon did with JL. Also, BvS had studio meddling so.. not the same thing, that's not an apples to apples comparison.

Reports are Wan got in touch with Snyder and showed him early screenings and storyboards of Aquaman. Wan wanted Snyder's input and to do away with changes Whedon made to the character during JL. Thank you Snyder.

If one billion is so easy then why didn't Spider-Man Homecoming do it? Why didn't Batman vs. Superman do it? Guardians of the Galaxy 2? Thor Ragnorak? Doctor Strange? Wonder Woman? I'll remember this "one billion is easy" talk for future discussion.

You are underselling Spider-Man as a character. Spider-Man is just as globally known and profitable as Batman, if not more. Spider-Man appearing in the MCU was a huge talking point and marketing strategy for years. This was his "homecoming" and for good measure they threw Iron Man in the mix. Iron Man was coming off Avengers, Iron Man 3 and Captain America Civil War, all $1B+ grossing films. As for BvS, this was an introduction of a new Batman. I'm not sure how the Nolan trilogy fits into the discussion. The idea that Spider-Man was a damaged brand and Batman was elevated doesn't hold water. It was a new Batman, had nothing to do with the Nolan films and it was a movie directed by Snyder who is a guy that was already divisive in some circles. BvS was not in line for a "sequel bounce" because it wasn't a sequel. If you want to make that argument Spider-Man Homecoming should have been in line for a sequel bounce based on the MCU already being massively popular and Iron Man being all over the marketing plan.

Production budgets are fine to discuss but in reality none of us are going to know what the real budget is and what additional costs came about or how much was paid by product placements, etc. I'm just talking about how much each film grossed at the worldwide box office. Batman/Superman introduced a new Batman and Wonder Woman. Spider-Man Homecoming introduced Spider-Man into the MCU which everyone was asking for and they threw in Iron Man to spike revenues as well. They both made the same amount. There were many predictions of Spider-Man Homecoming over one billion, it did not reach that number. There were far less people discussing how it underachieved in comparison to BvS. I don't mind pointing out hypocrisy and double standards. In my view both were successful but both underachieved.

I don't pick sides on these things but I do laugh at the narratives people try to paint around here at times. Batman/Superman made $873M and it's a "failure" Meanwhile Spider-Man/Iron Man made $880M and it's "a huge success." Explain that one.

Log off and never return to these boards.

Here to say big congrats to the man who talks to fish. What an achievement for an ORIGIN.. crazy. One billion. James Wan, folks. 😈

This could be another Venom situation but we'll see.. I am still going to see this regardless as I have liked both movies in the franchise thus far.

I think he means that there were quite a few examples this past year of movies that had mixed or even bad reviews ended up having high audience scores and long legs at the box office indicating strong WOM.

AMATW had zero competition. It finished where it did because that's how many people wanted to see it.

Anyone who thinks 29% is a "large" portion of an audience. Listen, a certain someone has a 40% approval rating. Nothing is 100% in this world.

Uhhh You can say Bumblebee wasn't "aiming" to do big numbers or Mary Poppins wasn't or whatever but Aquaman was? Many people said on here that Aquaman doing in the range of $650M WW would be a win.. Many expected that to be the total. So why shift the narrative and pretend that Poppins and Bumblebee were these poor little indie flicks and the big bad WB was always going to reign supreme? Many on here said Poppins was going over $400M domestic. The only thing that can be said is that Aquaman ended up being a HUGE success and the others did okay but not nearly as much as expected.

So if there was any doubt left that Aquaman is going over 300+ yesterday and then today's numbers solidified the 300+ though I'd argue the weekend did that. I have to think the one billion club is a lock at this point. I can't see OS-C falling below the necessary what ~$400M or so that it will need? Amazing run. Could get up as high as $1.1 billion and maybe challenge Civil War.

I don't have much interest in turning this into a Snyder/Whedon thing tonight @MCKillswitch123 but the facts are JL is partially a Snyder movie and partially a Whedon movie and it does not work. Whether Snyder was let go or whether he left because of family doesn't matter.. all that matters is that Snyder did not complete the film and Whedon tried some things and those did not work either.. What I'm saying is that there is enough blame to go around. Whedon is not a sparkling diamond coming out of this situation either, the ass shots of Wonder Woman is just one of the many things that people including Patty Jenkins herself had an issue with.. So with that, Snyder/WB/Whedon.. whatever. Blame them all. JL was a fail. If you look at Wonder Woman Snyder had quite a bit to do with that production behind the scenes so he might deserve some credit for that too but that's another story.. Of course none of this has anything to do with Aquaman and how I believe WB now has a huge marketable character to go along with the trio of Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman. I do believe Shazam can be a hit but probably not on this level.

What's the latest though? Last I knew he was writing the script but they haven't cast anyone and nobody knows if Affleck is in or out.

Deadline's "experts" say it will cross $900M but they aren't confident enough to say one billion is locked? the hell?

JL sticking out like a sore thumb on that list. Every other DCEU movie was very successful for it's time. Even those who left some money on the table. DCEU is raking in the dough for WB... Amazing for a franchise that is supposedly dead.

Aquaman is in great company with the Fast franchise and Transformers. It means now that a sequel they can probably bank on $200M+ from China no matter what... As long as the budget doesn't go insane Aquaman is now going to be a hugely profitable franchise for the foreseeable future. People thought it could do well but not many expected this. HUGE win for Wan, Momoa and DC/WB.

So Aquaman could make 800M WW without China? There goes that "it was all China.." excuse I've been seeing tossed around. This shit is just huge on every level.

Some people just aren't bright. Also, those who were flipping out yesterday can rest easy. Aquaman came back like Jordan wearing the 45.