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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
1. Venom and Shang-Chi IM doesn't matter as they had very different sales patterns and audiences. Also, previews were 6.23 million with 1 million from Wed, so the Spectre comp doesn't make sense. 2. 90% verified audience score is nothing special and usually corresponds to an A- on Cinemascore (which is the same as Spectre). 3. I don't know what you're referring to with Spectre's daily holds, it bumped 19% on Saturday, not 52.2% drop. Yeah it has a chance to top Spectre if walkups today are very very good, but Skyfall? I have no clue where you can see that. -
NO TIME TO DIE WEEKEND THREAD | Bond 56M, Venom 32M
Menor the Destroyer replied to The Wild Eric's topic in Numbers and Data
91% RT verified, seems like an A- Cinemascore in the cards. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
NTTD Friday Sales: Shows: 4810 (+24) Tickets Sold: 70906/674049 (+18904) Total $ sales: 880784* (+222652) Blech. These aren't final sales and there a few hours to go for that but I don't see it going higher than like 76k by end of day. The 24-hr pace was not great. Way below F9 and SC let alone Venom. But can't make too solid a prediction from just MTC2, still my gut is telling me 18m Friday or so. Some comps: F9 was at 107k a couple hours after this. SC was at 91k a few hours after this. Venom 2 was at 121k a few hours after this. Last two comps courtesy of @keysersoze123 -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Bond MTC2 at 59044/409958, $795652. Probably heading for 70k admits/930k gross finish here. Could be only 65k/870k if the night is poor. I will update tomorrow morning with final numbers. Edit: Just did a separate post for Fri numbers instead to make things more clearly demarcated. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Wait I thought F9 sold more than 1000 in the second half of the day? 491 seems like first half. -
NO TIME TO DIE WEEKEND THREAD | Bond 56M, Venom 32M
Menor the Destroyer replied to The Wild Eric's topic in Numbers and Data
Let's try 1-6-18-23-17.5. 66ish OW. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
FWIW, my dad usually sees Bond films on OW, but he's still worried about Covid until cases go down to June/July levels, but will be going back to theaters when they do. I doubt he would be the only one. We can't say that there's zero pandemic penalty for a movie like this, and claims about whether older audiences will "ever" come back to a theater seem very overstated to me. As far as mid-budget films those were on the downward trend even before Covid. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
I think people's expectations here were in the 80s, which was reasonable given good walkups, but it seems like we're getting the opposite. Though the signs were there with fairly weak bumps in the last few days (barring the Atom-inflated Tuesday). -
Weekdays box office (Oct 04-07)
Menor the Destroyer replied to titanic2187's topic in Numbers and Data
Pretty bad Wed for Venom. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Not exactly a fair comparison though, did Spectre have Wed shows? I wasn't tracking BO then. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Charlie did the calculation yesterday night, should be about 1.1-1.2 million. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Bond MTC2 at 41081 tickets sold in the run that just finished. SC and F9 were in the 75k range at this point. It has sold about half of what those two did since last night from some rough extrapolations. The last hour was closer to 55-60% of F9/SC pace (they were almost identical on the final day). I guess that can go up to 70% for the rest of the day just from the numbers already being kinda low, it won't be that hard to increase them. That will give it a 75k finish. Just making a guess, MTC1 perhaps 120-125k. Overall I think pure Thu previews are heading for the 6-6.5m range accounting for Canada. Could be 7 even, I don't really have a good sense of just how much Canada's overperformance will add. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Very soft start for Bond today. Will get full numbers later but hoping for 75-80k at MTC2, that will require significant acceleration relative to comps from where it is now. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
No it's below V2 on Friday as well, and worse pace. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
My sense is it was below Venom 2 from Sunday onwards for sure, though need to go back through the thread to check. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Does the +556 include the +104 for Wed that you posted earlier? -
Classic Conversation Thread
Menor the Destroyer replied to Water Bottle's topic in Box Office Discussion
Not even peer pressure, I've only even heard of Squid Game online. Have not heard any of my irl friends talk about it strangely, usually I hear about these big Netflix shows. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
I wonder if Fandango leans more toward more frequent moviegoers while more infrequent moviegoers tend to book through the theater site. I am just wildly guessing but it does seem odd that there could be such a skew between Fandango's report and the data we are seeing in the thread, especially since no Fandango in Canada. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
I don't see this having super crazy walkups. Sure they will be decent but we haven't seen any trend to indicate some massively backloaded PS run. Yesterday's MTC numbers being the exception, but from today it looks like that was purely caused by the discount. My guess is Thu alone will be in the 6m range. With Canada maybe 6.5-7. Looking at F9, MTC1 was 67k for Thursday at 8PM Eastern on Wed night, so probably would finish with like 73k final PS. Bond pure Thu was like 53k yesterday night with like 9k added during the day? So would probably do about 12k more. That will leave it around 90% of F9 which comps to 6.3 million. MTC2 is worse at around 60% of F9. If that cancels out Canada...hmm. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
NO Time to Die MTC2 Wed: Showtimes: 71 (nc) Tickets Sold: 7857/15714 (+1807) (final will be around 8k) Gross: $124830 (+28449)* Thu: Showtimes: 2945 (+128) Tickets Sold: 32427/408276 (+5687) Gross: 451724 (+76121)* TSS comp: 6.7 million Fri: Showtimes: 4786 (+223) Tickets Sold: 52002/672729 (+11165) Gross: 658132 (+137254)* TSS comp: 23.7 million F9 comp: 16.84 million Fri comps don't have ATP adjustment, which would be a big factor for summer releases, so take with a grain of salt. * for same reason as before Awful pace jumps, yesterday was clearly inflated by the Atom deal (thanks @TwoMisfits for the tip on that, otherwise I would have been really weirded out by the pattern). Even in isolation the pace is not that great. -
For me: SC solidly upper crust MCU Whatif slightly below middle BW/FWS/WV low middle Loki low My main concern is not really SC being better than the rest as the relative rankings are not that significant, but the fact that it's the only above average one so far. Bring on Eternals, I will be very disappointed if it's not at least on par with SC. Hopefully Whatif season 2 improves as well, I think there is scope to do so. More of the stories need to have complete arcs like the Dr. Strange episode, and if they're keeping the 30-minute format then I would ditch the Avengers crossovers completely, there's not enough time to make it work properly. But I think the episodes should be permitted to extend to an hour if the story requires it. 4 was a great episode showing the potential of the series, if the rest had that impact, this would be top 5 easily.