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I knew nothing about this and I became interested. I think the first part is enough to see the origins of the characters. In fact, I thought that ST09 is a real reboot.

Maybe, but the truth is I have become interested on this thanks to the previous 2 films, which I think are great. I never was interested on the older one and the TV show. Said this, I wish Spain can make more than the shameful $3.9m of STiD, but I am not optimistic. I do not get why people do not give a chance to this franchise.

July 22-24 (bold titles are local films) # (Last). Title: Total Gross (nº of weekend) 1 (N). The legend of Tarzan: €1,648,376 (NEW) 2 (N). Now you see me 2: €1,080,176 (NEW) 3 (1). Ice Age 5: €3,512,578 (2nd) 4 (3). Finding Dory: €15,516,545 (5th) 5 (2). The Purge: €1,816,785 (2nd) 6 (4). The Shallows: €1,497,046 (2nd) 7 (5). Central intelligence: €2,598,421 (3rd) 8 (6). Money monster: €2,247,575 (3rd) 9 (9). Me before you: €2,862,976 (4th) 10 (7). The BFG: €2,218,895 (3rd) 11 (8). Independence Day 2: €4,026,412 (4th) 12 (10). Solace: €441,879 (2nd) 13 (11). The Conjuring 2: €6,088,684 (6th) 14 (N). Lolo: €70,242 (NEW) 15 (N). La corrispondenza: €66,115 (NEW) 16 (N). Sunset song: €53,413 (NEW) 17 (*). The Neverending Story: €26,328 (RE-RELEASE) 18 (12). Miekkailija: €100,813 (2nd) 19 (14). Se Dio vuole: €980,767 (7th) 20 (13). Gods of Egypt: €1,799,049 (5th) Good start for Tarzan. Not so good for Now you see me 2. Both Ice Age 5 and Dory are making more money on weekdays than on weekends. Good boost for both relative last week. As a curiosity, The Neverending Story (#17) has been re-released. Its total figures before the re-release were 2,517,622 admissions and €3,962,926. Next relevant releases: July 29th: Jason Bourne Bad moms Zipi y Zape y la Isla del Capitán (local comic adaptation) August 5th: Suicide Squad The secret life of pets August 12th: Ghostbusters August 19th: Star Trek Beyond Pete's Dragon

Pretty agree. Concerning Spain, box office has dropped a lot since 2009-2010 and ER would hit today the film hugely. The €77m first part did here, today would mean $85m, what means $25m less than it really did (-23%). And I would bet on half of that here for second part. The same applies to the rest of Eurozone. And let's be honest, Avatar sold what it sold because of curiosity factor. I have many friends who said after seeing the film that they wanted to see it because everybody was seeing it and 3D was amazing. It was a kind of strange event that rarely happens. Unless a real Na'vi can appear in each showtime around the world, I do not think Avatar 2 can sell the same amount of tickets than first part. Not even close. The surprise factor is gone. Cameron can improve the 3D, but at the end that is all, more 3D. IMHO, this can sell a 50% of the original amount of tickets, what still would be enormous. Then add some increase given expanding markets. Unless China hits again and it grosses, let's say, $800m there, I would say about Jurassic World WW figure, maybe a bit more. But to talk about matching Avatar gross is pure fantasy.

I have read an Spanish review. It says it is better than Legacy, but it is not the best of the series. It is qualified as a worthy sequel, with great action scenes (two of them seem really impressive) and both Greengrass and Damon as good as they used to. The main issue seems to be that the film does not risk and the series can become repetitive. It seems more of the same than the 3 first parts. The score is a 7/10. I give the link if someone want to read it (Spanish) http://www.ecartelera.com/noticias/32424/critica-jason-bourne/

This is not the first time I read this. That is wrong. Euro has exactly the same value than one year ago and the same value than before Brexit. And, sincerely, I do not think that Pound has been so damaged because of it. It has lost about a 10% of value relative to before Brexit. And even if you think that is a big loss, you look in this way: if a film grosses 50 million Pounds in UK, that means 5-6 million dollars lower. I do not think that is dramatic for 500-600 million OS grossers. There have been currencies way more hit during previous years like Russian Ruble or Brazilian Real.

I have not said it is guaranteed to reach it. I said that live action films have been big lately in Japan. The only absolute sentence has been from @newbie BO buffsaying it will definitely not hit it. Again, I have not said that Dory will make 140 in those 3 markets. Just the reference of what Nemo did there and the fact that without being released there we still do not know what will happen. Just be patient. People tend to overreact without having every element. The sentences I was answering are "Now I think TJB will definitely not hit 1 billion." and "And Dory will miss it by a hair.". Can you really say it is LOCKED that TJB and Dory will miss the billion figure? I am not saying they will, but I do not think it is so clear. Both films have chances for sure.

I would not say it so early that both Jungle Book and Dory will not reach the billion. Disney live action films have been quite big in Japan and there is no reason to think otherwise for TJB. And concerning Dory, it still has to open in UK, Germany and Italy. Nemo did 140 million in those markets. Let's wait.

July 22-28: 1. Suicide Squad 2. Jason Bourne 3. Wonder Woman 4. Guardians of the Galaxy 2 5. War for the Planet of the Apes 6. Beauty and the Beast 7. Dunkirk 8. Rogue One 9. Passengers 10. Dr. Strange

I do not think so. IMO, it will land somewhere between 1.025-1.05b.

Well, Nemo did 865m during its first run, 339 of those in US. The first run already adjusts to 487, what means 148m more just from US because of inflation (+44%). It would already be at 1.013b. I find difficult that even with ER drop (which relative to 2003 is not so heavy) the 525m OS that the film did during the first run would not be today 87m bigger because of inflation (+16%) to reach the 1.1b figure. And without 3D. And then you can include the re-release. I have not exact data, but I think Nemo (adding re-release) adjusts to well over 1.1b, probably even over 1.2b.

UK+Germany+Italy grossed $147m for Finding Nemo. Maybe these countries sumed up $200m. And Japan has just started. Be patient.

I recognize that last year I was thinking that growth would continue. Maybe I thought it would slow down, but not so quickly. Thank you, @No Prisoners, for clarifying the global situation of the country. I have taken the biggest films released in January-July period in both 2015 and 2016 and we have this: 1. The Mermaid: 3.391b Yuan 2. Monster Hunt: 2.440b 3. F7: 2.427b 4. Zootopia: 1.530b 5. Warcraft: 1.472b 6. Age of Ultron: 1.464b 7. Jurassic World: 1.421b 8. Civil War: 1.246b 9. The Monkey King 2: 1.201b 10. Jian Bing Man: 1.160b 11. Man from Macau 3: 1.119b 12. Kung Fu Panda 3: 1.002b 13. Jungle Book: 979m 14. Man from Macau 2: 975m 15. TMK: 956m 16: Star Wars 7: 825m 17. X-Men: Apocalypse: 803m 18. Finding Mr. Right 2: 787m 19. Ip Man 3: 770m 20. Hobbit 3: 766m (In red, 2016 films) - For now, The Mermaid has been the Monster Hunt of 2016, the local beast. - Civil War has had the same behaviour than in the rest of the world relative to Ultron, so there is a concidence with what you say: they already do not buy massively every sequel. - Zootopia has been the nice surprise. It can fit with Jurassic World last year. - Warcraft could have probably been the F7 of the year but since quality has not been good, again, Chinese people do not buy everything as they used to. - Monkey King 2 and Macau 3 have been New Year releases that have boosted a lot relative to last year (in this top 20, just Macau 2 is a 2015 film). - And finally we have had several HLW films that are already in 800-1b league (KFP3, Jungle Book, SW7, X-Men) when last year they were in 600-800 league (Hobbit, San Andreas). I still see a relevant increase here. Even if Independence Day 2 had done what it was supposed to or a local film had broken in July, we should not deny that there are obvious signs that Chinese people are becoming more quality demanding (beyond, of course, of economics parameters). Said this, not everything are bad signs. Including July, there were 11 films over 600m Yuan in 2015. This year there have already been 15 (16, if Skiptrace is able to reach it). Not bad. Concerning thread question, maybe until early 20s we will not see China passing US.

July 15-17 (bold titles are local films) # (Last). Title: Total Gross (nº of weekend) 1 (N). Ice Age 5: €1,326,498 (NEW) 2 (N). The Purge: €760,544 (NEW) 3 (1). Finding Dory: €14,096,247 (4th) 4 (N). The Shallows: €631,522 (NEW) 5 (2). Central intelligence: €1,926,324 (2nd) 6 (4). Money monster: €1,742,059 (2nd) 7 (3). The BFG: €1,725,042 (2nd) 8 (5). Independence Day 2: €3,662,227 (3rd) 9 (6). Me before you: €2,363,041 (3rd) 10 (N). Solace: €200,998 (NEW) 11 (7). The Conjuring 2: €5,828,363 (5th) 12 (N). Miekkailija: €45,428 (NEW) 13 (8). Gods of Egypt: €1,754,506 (4th) 14 (12). Se Dio vuole: €932,006 (6th) 15 (9). A hologram for the king: €514,625 (3rd) 16 (13). Warcraft: €5,440,659 (7th) 17 (14). Alice through the looking glass: €4,799,703 (8th) 18 (10). Neighbors 2: €1,578,272 (4th) 19 (11). TMNT 2: €1,583,561 (5th) 20 (15). My bakery in Brooklyn: €167,501 (3rd)

I think that after Jungle Book result, if this film has a similar quality and with Watson appealing, it can make 400 DOM and 1.1-1.2 billion worldwide. Beauty and the Beast is one of the most beloved Disney classics. Sky is the limit for this.

July 15-21: 1. Suicide Squad 2. Guardians of the Galaxy 2 3. Jason Bourne 4. Star Trek Beyond 5. Wonder Woman 6. War for the Planet of the Apes 7. Beauty and the Beast 8. Rogue One 9. Passengers 10. Dr. Strange

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Pixar being small in China is not a novelty. I did not expect much more from there. In fact, Dory has set a new record for a Pixar film.

IMHO and unless the film is a shit, the billion seems probable.

July 8-10 (bold titles are local films) # (Last). Title: Total Gross (nº of weekend) 1 (1). Finding Dory: €11,895,737 (3rd) 2 (N). Central intelligence: €758,920 (NEW) 3 (N). The BFG: €689,658 (NEW) 4 (N). Money monster: €863,837 (NEW - 5day) 5 (2). Independence Day 2: €2,885,986 (2nd) 6 (3). Me before you: €1,626,895 (2nd) 7 (4). The Conjuring 2: €5,329,100 (4th) 8 (5). Gods of Egypt: €1,616,823 (3rd) 9 (6). A hologram for the king: €417,882 (2nd) 10 (7). Neighbors 2: €1,469,162 (3rd) 11 (8). TMNT 2: €1,515,984 (4th) 12 (11). Se Dio vuole: €863,366 (5th) 13 (10). Warcraft: €5,379,033 (6th) 14 (9). Alice through the looking glass: €4,733,461 (7th) 15 (12). My bakery in Brooklyn: €130,223 (2nd) 16 (N). Sultan: €26,696 (NEW) 17 (N). Viva: €16,914 (NEW) 18 (13). Angry Birds: €5,366,688 (9th) 19 (*). The Jungle Book: €16,797,631 (13th - Back to top20) 20 (19). X-Men: Apocalypse: €4,820,434 (8th)

I quote myself to correct me. I did not calculate well yesterday. I do not why I was thinking this still needed 380m to reach 500, but not 280, as it really needs. As some of you are saying, it is hard to think this will not manage $500m OS. In fact, I am correcting my last sentence to say that Japan will be key to reach $600m OS, not 500.

I can understand it, but Inside out is not exactly an easy film. It could fail or not. And TGD failed everywhere. I think it has more weight the fact of being a sequel of a $100m earner in the same way Monsters University was a sequel of a $74m earner. Japan already know what Nemo's world mean and they loved it 13 years ago. If people came back again to see Monsters, I do not see any logical reason to think they will not do the same with Nemo.

It is early to say. We still have to see the response of UK, Germany or Mexico. Just in these 3 countries, Nemo did $140m. But I think it will make big numbers in Japan for sure. Monsters University is the best proof of it. I prefer to wait and see. It is going to be quite entertaining.

Dory is not repeating Nemo admissions in Spain, but it could still manage IO-TS3 figures. Said this, I want to see this weekend figure for a better extrapolation. But I think Japan will be, again, the key to reach $500m.

I keep reading here that Euro has tanked, but it has, cent up, cent down, the same value relative to Dollar than before Brexit. On Wednesday 22nd June, it was 1$=€0.8867. Today, $1=€0.90. I do not see it a relevant change.