Jay Beezy Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) 6 minutes ago, John Marston said: The Abrams movie were very good and mostly liked. If it is not like those most people will rightfully be disappointed. The first one, yes. The second one, that's only true to an extent. Edited December 14, 2015 by Jay Beezy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Looks like Star Trek is fighting between nerd credibility and dumb masses credibility. Dumb masses credibility is winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 1 minute ago, Jay Beezy said: The first one, yes. The second one, that's only true to an extent. even the second one received good reviews overall and had pretty good legs for a sequel 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Good trailer, liked the song, reminded me of the first movie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Skywalker Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 "Well,that's Just TYPICAL" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirafficPark Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Looks OK. Its not Star trek at all really but it looks OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Beezy Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 1 minute ago, John Marston said: even the second one received good reviews overall and had pretty good legs for a sequel Good reviews *at the time*. Pretty good but hardly noteworthy legs. Criticisms sank in deeper as time went on. Ones which the filmmakers acknowledged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empire Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I really liked the trailer. The criticism of Sabotage being used in the trailer is dumb since it was used in Abrams 1st Trek Movie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Manager Water Bottle Posted December 14, 2015 Community Manager Share Posted December 14, 2015 5 minutes ago, Sam said: I don't know much about Star Trek, but isn't it mostly about exploring stuff, which this one seems to be about? I question the choice of music in the trailer but I think the footage shown look really promising, hoping for a fun adventure. Would be nice to see other members of the crew beside the three dudes having more things to do though. Exploring stuff is a part of it (at least in the TOS, TNG mostly gave up on that, DS9 almost eliminates it, VOY returns to it by necessity) but Star Trek has always been the thinking man's science fiction in that it'll try to create interesting scenarios and then have the characters think their way out of there. Yes, there were action scenes but the focus (even with Kirk) was always on philosophy and thinking. How the original cast beat Khan: Notice how they didn't beat him to submission. They simply outsmarted/outmanuevered him. In Into Darkness, Spock just punched Khan really hard. 20 minutes ago, Jay Beezy said: If it's one story that has a more climactic resolution instead of multiple stories crammed into one that don't, then it's a start in being better than STID. You do realize I gave STID an A-, right? And I stand by that grade. I've rewatch that movie almost every time I fly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empire Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 11 minutes ago, Jay Beezy said: Good reviews *at the time*. Pretty good but hardly noteworthy legs. Criticisms sank in deeper as time went on. Ones which the filmmakers acknowledged. It had an over 3x multiplier which is great for a sequel in the Summer & it was one of the best multipliers that Summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Beezy Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Just now, Empire said: It had an over 3x multiplier which is great for a sequel in the Summer & it was one of the best multipliers that Summer. It also opened on a Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Beezy Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 6 minutes ago, Darth Water Bottle said: You do realize I gave STID an A-, right? And I stand by that grade. I've rewatch that movie almost every time I fly. Hey, don't let me stop you from condoning incomplete storytelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 The talks about STID reminds me of all the wild predictions for its BO back in 2013. That was fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkelf Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I like how it looks but I don't really like the trailer itself. The anti-(Legend of)Tarzan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Beezy Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Just now, darkelf said: I like how it looks but I don't really like the trailer itself. The anti-(Legend of)Tarzan. I find the lack of Alexander Skarsgaard mutant abs disturbing. Whoops, wrong Star movie. Also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Well it's not 2 minutes of self-serious mumbo jumbo set to Inception horns and Zimmery flair so it's the most unique trailer coming with Star Wars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Star trek originally was like half "thinking-man's science fiction" and half dumb fun b-movies for tv. the fact that this is aiming for the latter is no bother to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Beezy Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Just now, CoolioD1 said: Star trek originally was like half "thinking-man's science fiction" and half dumb fun b-movies for tv. the fact that this is aiming for the latter is no bother to me. This is still only a teaser. Trailer should show more. Simon Pegg wrote the story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Manager Water Bottle Posted December 14, 2015 Community Manager Share Posted December 14, 2015 Just now, Jay Beezy said: Hey, don't let me stop you from condoning incomplete storytelling. The storytelling is complete. It doesn't have the most logical story, sure, but it's entertaining as heck, has great action sequences, and it does have some pretty good arcs/moments from the characters. But it does tell a complete story. You don't have to like it but there is a beginning (Khan attacks the Federation), a middle (Khan gets captured, Kirk finds out the truth, the Vengeance attacks, they infiltrate the Vengeance with Khan), and an end (Khan betrays them, the Enterprise is damaged, Kirk saves the Enterprise by sacrificing his life, Spock goes after Khan and beats him to submission, takes Khan's blood which was previously established as having miracle healing properties, and uses it to save Kirk). Incomplete storytelling would imply there's no Act Three or the end of Act Three (which is Kirk is made captain again and they get the five-year mission). Nice try. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood26 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Pretty disappointed by that trailer, lots of stuff looks iffy here., but it could just be a poorly put together trailer for me. They didn't introduce any one or anything, they just threw stuff at the screen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...