somebody85 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Awesome trailer. Great rebound from the last one which I thought was okay but a lot different in tone. And Sabotage did not help it. I'm getting excited to see this now. Feels much bigger in scale and a have a feeling it could be good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somebody85 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 20 hours ago, Cmasterclay said: That's one of the better trailers of the summer, honestly, and if they had just started out that way, then it would have been instant hype train. Better late than never. It still has a definite sense of adventure and fun, too- it's certainly not grimdark or anything, even if it isn't as silly as the teaser. That's what I thought too. Besides the Blitz trailer for Suicide Squad, nothing else has really come close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somebody85 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 21 hours ago, Telemachos said: Let's see how fast Disney would shut down a fan-film about Mickey's mysterious past. Disney will shut down a day care if they use their characters on a wallpaper unauthorized lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Despite not being a Trekkie and thinking Darkness was a calamity, I'm rooting for this. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonytr87 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 1 hour ago, RichWS said: Despite not being a Trekkie and thinking Darkness was a calamity, I'm rooting for this. I still don't get the weird internet reactions to STID. It's well-made, it's funny, it made this grown man cry. But then again, I never saw Wrath of Khan. So everything that it borrowed from that movie was new to me. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkshop36 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 2 hours ago, tonytr87 said: I still don't get the weird internet reactions to STID. It's well-made, it's funny, it made this grown man cry. But then again, I never saw Wrath of Khan. So everything that it borrowed from that movie was new to me. Wrath of Khan is my favorite ST movie and I like STID except for the part when Kirk sacrifices himself and Spock yells KHAAAAAANNN!!!! That was right from WoK except the characters were reversed. It worked a lot better in Wrath than in STID though. Also, Kirk yells Khan more in the middle of the movie instead of the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travod Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Honestly I liked the first trailer better :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) 12 hours ago, junkshop36 said: Wrath of Khan is my favorite ST movie and I like STID except for the part when Kirk sacrifices himself and Spock yells KHAAAAAANNN!!!! That was right from WoK except the characters were reversed. It worked a lot better in Wrath than in STID though. Also, Kirk yells Khan more in the middle of the movie instead of the end. I'm with you, STID was a good movie but that part at the end was pretty lame and took me right out of the movie. Edited May 22, 2016 by Elessar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babz06 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Believe it or not, i thought the first trailer was better. It might be too late to salvage this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) Wow, how could one like the first trailer more? Edited May 22, 2016 by Elessar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonytr87 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 10 hours ago, junkshop36 said: Wrath of Khan is my favorite ST movie and I like STID except for the part when Kirk sacrifices himself and Spock yells KHAAAAAANNN!!!! That was right from WoK except the characters were reversed. It worked a lot better in Wrath than in STID though. Also, Kirk yells Khan more in the middle of the movie instead of the end. See...the sacrifice was my favorite part of the movie. Gave me the feels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spooky Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 STID fell largely flat throughout for me. But the "KHHHAAAANNN" moment put the last nail in the coffin of mediocrity. 1. They obviously weren't going to kill Kirk off, so there was no tension there at all. 2. Even though I'm not a Trekkie, that original moment is well known to me through nerd culture, so I thought "I see what you're doing, movie, and it's derivative and lame". I liked ST09 quite a bit, and this new trailer is really good so I'm looking forward to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rukaio101 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 13 hours ago, tonytr87 said: I still don't get the weird internet reactions to STID. It's well-made, it's funny, it made this grown man cry. But then again, I never saw Wrath of Khan. So everything that it borrowed from that movie was new to me. I understand your confusion if you've never watched Wrath of Khan, but believe me when I say it's not just a case of 'these death scenes are mildly similar'. STID almost word-for-word copies Spock's death in WOK, just with the roles reversed. And it's distracting as all shit. A tragic death is probably the worst place to start throwing in easter eggs, let alone full-on C&Ping one of the most well-known scenes in all of Trekdom. It's the equivalent of if, in the Force Awakens, when Han and Kylo Ren are on that balcony, they started directly quoting Obi-Wan and Vader from their fight in A New Hope out of nowhere and with no recognition or explanation. Kinda distracts from the mood. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 The more the ST reboots ape or riff on the originals, the worse they get. And ST09 went through a bunch of convoluted nonsense just to give themselves free rein to *not* get pigeon-holed in the old universe, so it's extra dumb that they haven't been able to resist (so far). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 14 hours ago, tonytr87 said: I still don't get the weird internet reactions to STID. It's well-made, it's funny, it made this grown man cry. But then again, I never saw Wrath of Khan. So everything that it borrowed from that movie was new to me. I've only seen Khan once so the ripping off didn't bother me all that much, although "Khan!" made me roll my eyes. I just thought it was an all-around mess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddeeee Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Haven't seen STID since it's midnight showing and can't imagine I'll ever want to again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Perhaps my biggest beef with Darkness was Kirk's total lack of growth. He was the exact same character we met in the first film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkshop36 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 1 hour ago, tonytr87 said: See...the sacrifice was my favorite part of the movie. Gave me the feels. Hey if it worked for you that's cool. Being a BIG WoK fan it just bugged me the way they straight up re did that whole scene. Plus, I could see it coming a mile away. Still, I enjoyed the movie over all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macleod Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) The original filmmaker agrees. Nicholas Meyer on STID: "Well, you have to be flattered that somebody wants to sort of try and make your movie again. But the difference between a rip-off and an homage is that you are supposed to add something." http://trekmovie.com/2014/10/10/exclusive-nick-meyer-talks-star-trek-ii-directors-blu-ray-reacts-to-into-darkness-death-scene-more/ Edited May 22, 2016 by Macleod 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood26 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 2 hours ago, RichWS said: Perhaps my biggest beef with Darkness was Kirk's total lack of growth. He was the exact same character we met in the first film. The idea is in ST09 he is basically still a student and he saves the world. They give him the biggest and best ship in the fleet so of course he has grown to be an over confidant guy, docuhey guy (like in 09) again. So yeah its essentially the same arc for him and Spock just intensified. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
