Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

[Kvikk Lunsj]

2 hours ago, cannastop said:

Uh, why? He's never done a movie like that, and he doesn't need to.

so he can try to something different.  

[kayumanggi]

Wait, did Cameron give specific dates for the sequels?

[IronJimbo]

47 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:

Wait, did Cameron give specific dates for the sequels?

 

I think December is specific as it gets.

[kayumanggi]

1 hour ago, IronJimbo said:

 

I think December is specific as it gets.

 

I was talking about specific weekends.

[BadAtGender]

14 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:

 

I was talking about specific weekends.

 

They'd probably be shooting for that same pre-Christmas weekend that Avatar, LotR, Hobbit, and TFA all mostly hit.

 

In 2018, that'd likely be the 14th.

In 2020, it'd be the 18th.

In 2022, the 16th.

And in 2023, the 15th.

[johnboy3434]

6 minutes ago, DamienRoc said:

 

They'd probably be shooting for that same pre-Christmas weekend that Avatar, LotR, Hobbit, and TFA all mostly hit.

 

In 2018, that'd likely be the 14th.

In 2020, it'd be the 18th.

In 2022, the 16th.

And in 2023, the 15th.

 

I hope not, for their sake. That's Star Wars country, and Disney will not blink.

[BadAtGender]

14 minutes ago, johnboy3434 said:

 

I hope not, for their sake. That's Star Wars country, and Disney will not blink.

 

Eh... right now there's no conflict.

 

December 2016 - Rogue One

December 2017 - Episode 8

May 2018 - Han Solo

December 2018 - Avatar 2

May 2019 - Episode 9

December 2019 - Nothing

December 2020 - Avatar 3

December 2021 - Nothing

December 2022 - Avatar 4

December 2023 - Avatar 5

 

 

By leaving 2019 free, they're acknowledging that Episode 9 will probably shift to that date. That means the only film that's left in any sort of crunch is the Han Solo film.

 

Disney may not want to blink, but while they can be pretty assured that a Saga Star Wars film is bigger than an Avatar film, there's no guarantee that the offshoots have the same benefit. Especially one that's recasting an iconic role.

[kayumanggi]

17 minutes ago, johnboy3434 said:

 

I hope not, for their sake. That's Star Wars country, and Disney will not blink.

 

Previous STAR WARS movies were summer releases. Disney just chose December because of TITANIC and AVATAR.

[BadAtGender]

4 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:

 

Previous STAR WARS movies were summer releases. Disney just chose December because of TITANIC and AVATAR.

 

Actually, I thought they chose it because they'd promised a 2015 release date. Abrams wanted them to delay it until May 2016, but got nixed, and December was the latest they could delay. It worked out well for them, though.

[IronJimbo]

3 hours ago, johnboy3434 said:

 

I hope not, for their sake. That's Star Wars country, and Disney will not blink.

 

Avatar is bigger than Star Wars.

 

2018, 9 year gap

 

2020, 2 year gap

 

2022, 2 year gap

 

2023, 1 year gap.

 

Whats with the 2023 release, isn't that a bit weird. Why the 1 year gap instead of 2.

Is Jim avoiding something in 2019 and 2021 that we don't know about?

Also another thought is that Jim could have the Avatars done by 2021 and start work on other films.

Edited April 16, 2016 by IronJimbo

[johnboy3434]

Just now, IronJimbo said:

 

Avatar is bigger than Star Wars.

 

...It's been all but forgotten over the course of eight years. Star Wars has kept itself continuously in the public consciousness in one way or another since the early 90s. It's a cultural institution. Avatar was a fad, nothing more.

[IronJimbo]

3 minutes ago, johnboy3434 said:

 

...It's been all but forgotten over the course of eight years. Star Wars has kept itself continuously in the public consciousness in one way or another since the early 90s. It's a cultural institution. Avatar was a fad, nothing more.

 

Avatar sequels will get views on their own merit, not on nostalgia. The Avatar sequels will all be greater than the first.

 

Stand alone films are now fads? Thats cool.

 

[AniNate]

I love Avatar, but you're just being ridiculous saying it's bigger than Star Wars, especially now

[The Futurist]

4 minutes ago, tribefan695 said:

I love Avatar, but you're just being ridiculous saying it's bigger than Star Wars, especially now

 

Avatar was bigger than Star Wars in tons and tons of countries.

 

He s kinda stating a fact except for the US of A.

[IronJimbo]

1 minute ago, tribefan695 said:

I love Avatar, but you're just being ridiculous saying it's bigger than Star Wars, especially now

 

Disney just used EVERYTHING they possibly had to make money from Star Wars, but fell 700 million short of a 7 year old film:

• 30 years of nostalgia
• Marketed out of the god damn ass, I couldn't buy fruit without seeing BB8 on the packet.
• Big Director
• Cameos from the old cast

They literally used everything they had and the kitchen sink.

 

Honestly just the brand "JAMES CAMERON" is bigger than sws

 

 

 

 

 

[IronJimbo]

 

When the first trailer hits and JAMES CAMERON pops up, you in this moment, will realise Avatar is bigger than sws.

[Belakor]

The only reason SW VII made tons of money was nostalgia and the December release, Avatar made tons of money because of the 3-D and december release date.

[IronJimbo]

You've done it, you've figured out the secret to box office success. Just realease in December then combine it with a gimmick and you'll make mad $$$

[Biph Shmata]

1 hour ago, IronJimbo said:

 

Disney just used EVERYTHING they possibly had to make money from Star Wars, but fell 700 million short of a 7 year old film:

• 30 years of nostalgia
• Marketed out of the god damn ass, I couldn't buy fruit without seeing BB8 on the packet.
• Big Director
• Cameos from the old cast

They literally used everything they had and the kitchen sink.

 

Honestly just the brand "JAMES CAMERON" is bigger than sws

 

 

 

 

 

IDK how you define bigger, but without a doubt Star Wars is far more profitable than Avatar.  No one buys Avatar video games, no one buys Avatar toys, no one dresses up like a an Avatar character for Halloween, no one looks forward to introducing their kids to the magic of Avatar.  It's only a movie and when the movie goes away so does it's impact on the GP. Star Wars is a cultural phenomenon, it's a bigger than just the movies. It's popularity is greatest in U.S/UK. less so in Europe and much less in Asia, but when the movie finishes it's run Star Wars still goes on. 

[Belakor]

2 hours ago, IronJimbo said:

You've done it, you've figured out the secret to box office success. Just realease in December then combine it with a gimmick and you'll make mad $$$

very simple.