ecstasy Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Well, yeah.Ok, sure, Avengers raised the bar.But remove that from the equation, were still not impressed. You know what also raised the bar? Spider-man 3 opening to 150m plus.Granted, yes, part of the reason were here today is cause...Spideman. 3 sucked. kowhite, "Your work here tonight has been a gift to all mankind" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Is there a thread for Bad Neighbours? I saw an OW club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Sorry but an opening that represents a new low for your franchise is not great. Especially when you've already scheduled two sequels and announced two spinoffs 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Is there a thread for Bad Neighbours? I saw an OW club. Yeah there's a thread. It's called just "Neighbors" here in the states 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Yeah there's a thread. It's called just "Neighbors" here in the statesThanks. See, I really didn't know anything. It was good watching a comedy without having already seen the best jokes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Sorry but an opening that represents a new low for your franchise is not great. Especially when you've already scheduled two sequels and announced two spinoffs It's not a low. It actually opened 50% higher than ASM. Come on Chewy, get with the program. This is a HUGE bump from the first. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAtGender Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Agreed. But we all know that the multiplier on this one is going to be at THE ABSOLUTE MAX a 2.5. But more realistically it'll be about 2.4. So if it hits 90 mill, the ceiling is 240 mill. That's less than the last one which means there is no growth. So jaded? Sure. Realistic is more like it though imo. Oh, I doubt it'll do much more than 240, and it's not a happy result, but it's not a flop, either. I don't think it's due to the quality of the film, necessarily, or even the response to the first, though that is a factor. Really, at this point, we're entering a point of genre fatigue. Even with Marvel's continued success, there are a ton of superhero films getting released. Last year had four. 2012 had three. 2011 had four. This year will have four (or five, if you count BH6). And it's only going to get worse. If Marvel continues at their two a year pace, and continues their plans to ramp up to a movie every year, and Sony does the same as they've indicated. AND WB gets their program running so they've got a movie or two hitting every year... we'll be looking at 5+ superhero films every year. Something has to give in that regard. Audiences may like the films, but nothing lasts forever, and eventually interest is going to plateau. Sure, Spider-Man was king, but this is the fifth film about just him in in twelve years. He's had the longest sustained presence of any superhero beside Wolverine (and even he basically had a gap of six years between the two solo films.) It makes sense that Spidey's going to be the first to feel some disinterest. Nothing lasts forever. If it did, westerns would probably still be the biggest hits around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 It's not a low. It actually opened 50% higher than ASM. Come on Chewy, get with the program. This is a HUGE bump from the first. Dat Sinister Six effect? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 ASM made 119 mill after its first five days. If ASM opens to 90, it will probably settle in at less than 105 for 5 days. Spin that Sony/Deadline/Nikki/SHH/anyone else without a brain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim22 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Thanks. See, I really didn't know anything. It was good watching a comedy without having already seen the best jokes. Kind of weird how it is titled "Bad Neighbours" in most countries, and just "Neighbors" in the US. The poster and marketing kind of makes sure that everyone knows that the neighbors hate each other, but wonder how the marketing and title decisions are made worldwide. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orestes Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) I cant buy Genre-Fatigue after the increase Cap is having. Bad movie fatigue is more likely. Edited May 3, 2014 by Orestes 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Oh, I doubt it'll do much more than 240, and it's not a happy result, but it's not a flop, either. I don't think it's due to the quality of the film, necessarily, or even the response to the first, though that is a factor. Really, at this point, we're entering a point of genre fatigue. Even with Marvel's continued success, there are a ton of superhero films getting released. Last year had four. 2012 had three. 2011 had four. This year will have four (or five, if you count BH6). And it's only going to get worse. If Marvel continues at their two a year pace, and continues their plans to ramp up to a movie every year, and Sony does the same as they've indicated. AND WB gets their program running so they've got a movie or two hitting every year... we'll be looking at 5+ superhero films every year. Something has to give in that regard. Audiences may like the films, but nothing lasts forever, and eventually interest is going to plateau. Sure, Spider-Man was king, but this is the fifth film about just him in in twelve years. He's had the longest sustained presence of any superhero beside Wolverine (and even he basically had a gap of six years between the two solo films.) It makes sense that Spidey's going to be the first to feel some disinterest. Nothing lasts forever. If it did, westerns would probably still be the biggest hits around. Except that Marvel films continue to grow. Every single Avengers sequel that has been released has increased from the last one starting with IM3. So where is the fatigue there? Maybe there's just Spider-man fatigue. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 ASM made 119 mill after its first five days. If ASM opens to 90, it will probably settle in at less than 105 for 5 days. Spin that Sony/Deadline/Nikki/SHH/anyone else without a brain Don't include Nikki in that. She's not buying it, lol. Nikki Finke @NikkiFinke 1h Box Office Analysis: 'Amazing Spider-Man 2' opening good but not gargantuan. Meh reviews, story leaks, fanboy criticism won't help. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orestes Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Except that Marvel films continue to grow. Every single Avengers sequel that has been released has increased from the last one starting with IM3. So where is the fatigue there? Maybe there's just Spider-man fatigue. I think it's more bad Spider-Man movie fatigue. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Don't include Nikki in that. She's not buying it, lol. Nikki Finke @NikkiFinke 1h Box Office Analysis: 'Amazing Spider-Man 2' opening good but not gargantuan. Meh reviews, story leaks, fanboy criticism won't help. Okay, good for Nikki, seriously. Glad someone isn't buying into this Sony spin. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I think it's more bad Spider-Man movie fatigue. The movie isn't bad, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulder Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 We'll see how DoFP does. If DoFP does really well then yeah it's Spider-Man fatigue. If DoFP doesn't do so hot then it's Superhero fatigue in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stingray Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Sorry but an opening that represents a new low for your franchise is not great. Especially when you've already scheduled two sequels and announced two spinoffs Especially when your movie costs ~ 250m + marketing. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orestes Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 The movie isn't bad, lol. It certainly isn't good. But obviously, it's a little too early for this movies quality to affect it much just yet. Rather, the last movie was bad, and this one is paying a price on its OW. It's legs will pay the price for the current films quality. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) It certainly isn't good. But obviously, it's a little too early for this movies quality to affect it much just yet. Rather, the last movie was bad, and this one is paying a price on its OW. It's legs will pay the price for the current films quality. Well it certainly is good you hater! said in ijack voice. Edited May 3, 2014 by ECSTASY 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
