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WINTERTIME IS HERE, HUZZAH!


WELCOME TO THE WONDERFUL SPECTACULAR WINTER GAME 2014!


Before we start remember to post all predictions in thread below:


http://forums.boxoffice.com/index.php?/topic/16195-winter-game-prediction-thread-post-all-predictions-here/


This will run for the most part like the summer game that we all know and love. There may be one or two twists and turns along the way (such as this game will not start in May but October), but it will for the most part be the game that you both deserve and the one you want right now.The game will run from Friday October 3rd until Sunday January 25th.So that means that all grosses and predictions will only count until Sunday January 25th.

As for structure, it is as you would expect, there will be preseason general gross predictions and a sprinkling of bonus questions. Then during the game itself, there will be weekly sets of questions as well as the good old SOTM questions too. So let’s get to the predictioning:

A: DOMESTIC TOP 15

Predict the 15 films you believe will gross the highest over the course of the winter game. You may choose any film for this list so long as it receives a US cinematic release between the dates of October 3rd and January 25th. (So if you think some indie film, currently down for being released in 7 cinemas nationwide, is going to go on to break 200M, go ahead and predict it).

You should also predict a backup 16th and 17th placed film which will be used in the event that one of your top 15 gets moved outside of the qualifying period. Therefore your top 15 predictions should look something like the following:

1) Avatar: 485M
2) Ernest Saves Christmas 46lM
3) The Tom and Jerry Movie 411M
4) Ironclaws! Fists of fury. 325M
5) Honey we ate the kids 232M

6) The Really Amazing Spiderman, We Promise it Really is This Time 4: 177M
7) Halloween Part Ninety Three 155M
8) BSG: The Movie 118M
9) Sparticus 2: The Quickening 115M
10) Hans: A prince’s Tale 112M

11) Snow White and the 7 Gigolos 109M
12) Aliens vs Ja Ja Binks 104M
13) We Bought a Nuclear Powerplant 101M
14) Tetris The Movie 95M
15) On the Cusp of Yesterday 92M

16 (back up number one) Hunger Games: Mocking Jason Vorhees 88M
17 (back up number 2) The Fault in Twilight 84M

POINT SYSTEM:

For every film you call correctly in the top 15, in any order, you will get 15,000 points. For every film you call in the exact spot, you will get 25,000 points (total). So you must think this out thoroughly. You will also lose 10,000 points for every film in the top 15 that you call incorrectly.

So, for example, if you say Hunger Games will be in the top 15, and it misses the top 15, you will lose 10,000 points (PLUS whatever you miss the gross by).And one more caveat to this is the double whammy rule. If you call a film to hit the top 15 and it misses, you will lose points for missing the top 15 AND you will lose points if the gross misses by more than the 40 million allotted to you. If however you call a film incorrectly in the top 15 but you are within the 40 million, YOU WILL NOT GET CREDIT FOR THOSE POINTS.

If you are able to call the top two positions right, in order, regardless of the gross, you will get a 75,000 point bonus.
If you are able to call the top three positions right, in order, regardless of the gross, you will get a 100,000 point bonus.
If you can call the top four positions right, in order, regardless of gross, you will get a 150,000 point bonus.
If you are able to call the top five positions right, in order, regardless of gross, you will get a 250,000 point bonus. This is not as easy as you might think it is.If you are a genius and can call the top 10 right, in order, regardless of gross, you will get a 750,000 point bonus.
If you can call 12 right in order, you get a million bonus points.

OTHER ADD ONS:

Call SPOTS 3-6 correct, regardless of order, and receive a 100,000 point bonus.
Call SPOTS 9-12 correct, regardless of order, and receive a 100,000 point bonus.
Call ANY 6 SPOTS in the correct place (eg: 3rd, 6th, 8th, 9th, 12th and 14th) and receive a 200,000 point bonus.

BONUS STRUCTURE.

Call 6 or 7 of the 15 films correct, regardless of order and get a 50,000 point bonus
Call 8-10 of the 15 films correctly, regardless of the order, and receive a 100,000 point bonus.
Call 11 of the top 15 correct, regardless of order, receive a 200,000 point bonus.
Call 12 films correct, regardless of the order and you will receive a 350,000 point bonus.
Call 13 correct, regardless of order, and you get a 500,000 point bonus.
Call 14 correct, regardless of order, and you get a 750,000 point bonus.
If you call all 15 correct, regardless of order, you will get a 1 million point bonus

This does not eliminate the bonus points originally mentioned, it will just add to them.

GROSS ACCURACY:

Call a film’s gross to within 2 million to get 30,000 bonus points
Call a film’s gross to within 5 million to get 25,000 bonus points
Call a film’s gross to within 10 million to get 20,000 bonus points
Call a film’s gross to within 20 million to get 15,000 bonus points
Call a film’s gross to within 30 million to get 10,000 bonus points
Call a film’s gross to within 40 million to get 0 bonus points
Call a film’s gross to within 40.01-60 million lose 10,000 points and lose 1,000 points for every subsequent 10M you are away.

B: DOMESTIC TOP 7 OPENING WEEKS


NOTE: AN OPENING WEEKEND IS DEEMED ALL OF THE GROSS A FILM MAKES UNTIL ITS FIRST SUNDAY. SO IF A FILM IS RELEASE ON A WEDNESDAY IT WILL HAVE A 5 DAY OPENING WEEKEND.

2nd NOTE: BIG HERO 6’s OPENING WEEKEND WILL BE CONSIDERED AS NOV 7th, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER DISNEY DOES THEIR DISNEYLAND PREVIEW THING ALA FROZEN OR NOT.

So it’s simple predict the top 7 OW of winter (plus a backup 8th OW in case of Calendar change) along with the predicted gross for the weekend.

POINT SYSTEM:

For each correctly predicted film, regardless of order you receive 10,000 points
For each film in the exact spot you receive 5,000 bonus points (so 15,000 total)
Call top 3 in order and receive 50,000 bonus points
Call 5 of the top 7 correctly (any order) receive 75,000 bonus points
Call 6 of the top 7 (any order) receive 100,000 bonus points
Call top 7 (any order) receive 150,000 bonus points

For every incorrect film lose 7,000 points

GROSS ACCURACY:

Call a film’s gross to within 1 million to get 30,000 bonus points
Call a film’s gross to within 2.5 million to get 25,000 bonus points
Call a film’s gross to within 5 million to get 20,000 bonus points
Call a film’s gross to within 10 million to get 15,000 bonus points
Call a film’s gross to within 15 million to get 10,000 bonus points
Call a film’s gross to within 20 million to get 5,000 bonus points
Call a film’s gross to within 30 million to get no bonus points

Miss the gross by more than 30M and lose 10,000 points (You will lose these points even if the film doesn’t make the top 7 OW.)


C: WORLDWIDE TOTAL GROSS

Predict the top 10 grossing films of the Winter (Plus 1 back up again)

POINT SYSTEM:

For each correctly predicted film, regardless of order you receive 20,000 points
For each film in the exact spot you receive 10,000 bonus points (so 30,000 total)
Call top 3 in order and receive 100,000 bonus points
Call top 5 in order and receive 200,000 bonus points
Call 8 of the top 10 correctly (any order) receive 100,000 bonus points
Call 9 of the top 10 (any order) receive 150,000 bonus points
Call top 10 (any order) receive 200,000 bonus points

For every incorrect film lose 10,000 points

GROSS ACCURACY:

Call a film’s gross to within 20 million to get 40,000 bonus points
Call a film’s gross to within 30 million to get 30,000 bonus points
Call a film’s gross to within 50 million to get 20,000 bonus points
Call a film’s gross to within 75 million to get 10,000 bonus points
Call a film’s gross to within 100 million to get 5,000 bonus points
Call a film’s gross to within 150 million to get no bonus points

Miss the gross by 150-250M and lose 10,000 points (You will lose these points even if the film doesn’t make the top 10 WW.)
Miss the gross by over 250M and lose 25,000 points (You will lose these points even if the film doesn’t make the top 10 WW.)


D: WORLD HUNGER CHALLENGE

Predict the top 5 Overseas (so not USA/Canada) territories for The Hunger Games: Mockingjay over the duration of the game.

POINT SYSTEM:

For each correctly predicted country, regardless of order you receive 15,000 points
For each country in the exact spot you receive 5,000 bonus points (so 20,000 total)
Call 3 of the top 5 correctly (any order) receive 15,000 bonus points
Call 4 of the top 5 (any order) receive 30,000 bonus points
Call top 5 (any order) receive 50,000 bonus points

For every incorrect film lose 10,000 points

GROSS ACCURACY:

There are no gross predictions required only placements.


E: LOWEST GROSSING FILMS

NOTE To qualify for lowest grossing list, only films released on or before December 25th will qualify, they must also appear on the list of qualifying films that will be posted in post two of this thread.


NOTE 2: If a film does not get released, or gets released after December 25th, it will not qualify for lowest grossing regardless of what BOM has it scheduled for at the start of game. However if a film is listed as wide but upon release never goes wide, then it is fair game.

POINT SYSTEM:

For each correctly predicted film, regardless of order you receive 10,000 points
Call 3 of the top 5 correctly (any order) receive 50,000 bonus points
Call 4 of the top 5 (any order) receive 75,000 bonus points
Call top 5 (any order) receive 100,000 bonus points


This thread will be the thread where the winter game discussion will take place up until the opening of the game. THERE WILL BE A SEPARATE THREAD FOR THE PREDICTIONS TO BE POSTED INTO WHICH WILL BE LOCKED AT 11:59 ON THURSDAY OCTOBER 2nd

You have almost 4 weeks to do your research and post your predictions so have fun



LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!



HERE ARE YOUR PRE SEASON BONUS QUESTIONS THAT MUST BE ANSWERED BEFORE MIDNIGHT OCTOBER 2nd.


Q1) A generous risk-free question to start you off: Predict which film will finish closest to each of the following milestones domestically by the end of the game:

A: 100M
B: 200M
C: 300M
D: 400M

Each correctly predicted film scores you 10,000 points, get all four correct and receive 10,000 bonus points for 50k total. (This is the only preseason question where there is no penalty for being wrong so enjoy it).

Q2) Tell me which of these will be the highest grossing film of the winter:

1) Big Hero 6
2) Interstellar
3) The Hobbit
4) Penguins of Madagascar

Answer correctly: 10,000 points
Answer incorrectly: -5,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points
Correctly predict the films gross to within 10M and receive a 10,000 point bonus.

Q3) Tell me which of these will be the lowest grossing film of the winter:

1) The Interview
2) Dracula Untold
3) Ouija
4) Addicted

Answer correctly: 10,000 points
Answer incorrectly: -5,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points

Correctly predict the films gross to within 10M and receive a 10,000 point bonus.

Q4) Will at least 3 films make more than 275M by the end of the game?

Answer correctly: 15,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 10,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points

Q5) Will at least 2 animated films make more than 150M by the end of the game?

Answer correctly: 15,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 10,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points


Q6) Will any film released in October make more than 120M by the end of the game?

Answer correctly: 15,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 10,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points


Q7) Will at least 2 films make more than 95M OW? (Remember OW means gross up until first Sunday)

Answer correctly: 15,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 10,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points


Q8) Will at least 2 films make more than 800M WW by the end of the game?

Answer correctly: 15,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 10,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points


Q9) Will any month’s OW record be broken by the end of the game? (This is 3 day only)

Answer correctly: 20,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 15,000 points
State that you abstain: 4,000 points


Q10) Will at least 2 of the 5 top grossing sequels become the top grossing film of their franchise by the end of the game?

Answer correctly: 20,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 15,000 points
State that you abstain: 4,000 points


Q11) Will any film listed as a horror gross more than 75M by the end of the game?

Answer correctly: 20,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 15,000 points
State that you abstain: 4,000 points


Q12) Will the combined gross of the top 2 films add up to more than the films that finish in 4th-10th by the end of the game?

Answer correctly: 20,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 15,000 points
State that you abstain: 4,000 points


Q13) Will there be a worldwide weekend of over 220M this winter?

Answer correctly: 25,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 20,000 points
State that you abstain: 5,000 points

Q14) Which combination of films will gross the most amount of money during the game?

Answer correctly: 25,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 20,000 points
State that you abstain: 5,000 points

A) The Hobbit, Hot tub Time Machine, Annabelle, John Wick
B) Hunger Games, Horrible Bosses, Dracula Untold, Annie
C) Interstellar, Dumb and Dumber, Alexander’s Very Bad Day, Paddington
D) Big Hero 6, Penguins, The Judge, Exodus,

Q15) Which combination of films will gross the smallest amount of money during the game?

Answer correctly: 25,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 20,000 points
State that you abstain: 5,000 points

A) The Interview, Annabelle, Unbroken, Ouija
B) Night at the Museum, The Best of Me, Black Hat, Laggies
C) Into the Woods, Addicted, Kitchen Sink, Left Behind
D) The Pyramid, Night Crawler, Beyond the Lights, St Vincent

GOOD LUCK EVERYONE AND HAVE FUN. THE FIRST WEEK’S QUESTIONS AND THE FIRST SOTM WILL BE POSTED SOON

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FILMS THAT QUALIFY TO BE THE LOWEST GROSSING FILM

 
THE FOLLOWING FILMS ARE THE ONLY FILMS WHICH QUALIFY TO POTENTIALLY BE ONE OF THE LOWEST GROSSING FILMS OF THE WINTER. IF A FILM IS NOT LISTED BELOW IT WILL NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE BOTTOM 5 REGARDLESS OF ITS FINAL GROSS.
 
NOTE: IF ANY OF THE FOLLOWING GET MOVED TO A NON-QUALIFYING RELEASE DATE THEN THEY WILL ALSO NOT BE COUNTED TOWARDS THE TOP 5 AND ANY PLAYERS WHO HAVE PREDICTED THE FILM WILL HAVE TO RELY ON THEIR 6TH PLACED FILM INSTEAD.
 

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    • ANNABELLE
    • GONE GIRL
    • LEFT BEHIND
    • ADDICTED
    • ALEXANDER AND THE TERRIBLE, NO GOOD, VERY BAD FILM DAY
    • DRACULA UNTOLD
    • THE JUDGE
    • THE BEST OF ME
    • BOOK OF LIFE
    • FURY
    • LAGGIES
    • OUIJA
    • ST. VINCENT
    • BEFORE I GO TO SLEEP
    • NIGHTCRAWLER
    • BIG HERO 6
    • INTERSTELLAR
    • BEYOND THE LIGHTS
    • DUMB AND DUMBER TO
    • HUNGER GAMES: MOCKINGJAY
    • HORRIBLE BOSSES
    • PENGUINS OF MADAGASCAR
    • PYRAMID
    • EXODUS
    • JAMES WAN DEMONIC
    • ANNIE
    • HOBBIT
    • NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM
    • HOT TUB TIME MACHINE
    • THE INTERVIEW
    • INTO THE WOODS
    • PADDINGTON
    • UNBROKEN

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TOP 15 ETC PREDICTION TEMPLATE

 

Below is a helpful template to use for making predictions. All Players who use this template for their predictions will receive 10,000 bonus points for making my life easier when I have to score everything at the end of the game.

 

 

A: Domestic top 15:
 
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B: Top 7 Domestic OW:
 
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C: Worldwide top 10:
 
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D: Top 5 Hunger Games Territories:
 
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E: Top 5 Lowest Grossing Films:
 
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F: Pre-season Questions:
 
 
1.  A generous risk-free question to start you off: Predict which film will finish closest to each of the following milestones domestically by the end of the game:
 
A: 100M
B: 200M
C: 300M
D: 400M
 
Each correctly predicted film scores you 10,000 points, get all four correct and receive 10,000 bonus points for 50k total. (This is the only preseason question where there is no penalty for being wrong so enjoy it).
 
2.  Tell me which of these will be the highest grossing film of the winter:

1) Big Hero 6
2) Interstellar
3) The Hobbit
4) Penguins of Madagascar
Answer correctly: 10,000 points
Answer incorrectly: -5,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points
Correctly predict the films gross to within 10M and receive a 10,000 point bonus.
 
 
3.  Tell me which of these will be the lowest grossing film of the winter:

1) The Interview
2) Dracula Untold
3) Ouija
4) Addicted
 
Answer correctly: 10,000 points
Answer incorrectly: -5,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points
Correctly predict the films gross to within 10M and receive a 10,000 point bonus.
 
 
4.  Will at least 3 films make more than 275M by the end of the game?
 
Answer correctly: 15,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 10,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points
 
 
5.   Will at least 2 animated films make more than 150M by the end of the game?
 
Answer correctly: 15,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 10,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points
 
 
6. Will any film released in October make more than 120M by the end of the game?
 
Answer correctly: 15,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 10,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points
 
 
7.   Will at least 2 films make more than 95M OW? (Remember OW means gross up until first Sunday)
 
Answer correctly: 15,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 10,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points
 
 
8.    Will at least 2 films make more than 800M WW by the end of the game?
 
Answer correctly: 15,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 10,000 points
State that you abstain: 3,000 points
 
 
9.  Will any month’s OW record be broken by the end of the game? (This is 3 day only)
 
Answer correctly: 20,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 15,000 points
State that you abstain: 4,000 points
 
 
10.  Will at least 2 of the 5 top grossing sequels become the top grossing film of their franchise by the end of the game? (For the purposes of this question Hobbit and LOTR are 2 Separate Franchises)
 
Answer correctly: 20,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 15,000 points
State that you abstain: 4,000 points
 
 
11. Will any film listed as a horror gross more than 75M by the end of the game?
 
Answer correctly: 20,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 15,000 points
State that you abstain: 4,000 points
 
 
12. Will the combined gross of the top 2 films add up to more than the films that finish in 4th-10th by the end of the game?
 
Answer correctly: 20,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 15,000 points
State that you abstain: 4,000 points
 
 
13.   Will there be a worldwide weekend of over 220M this winter?
 
Answer correctly: 25,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 20,000 points
State that you abstain: 5,000 points
 
 
14.   Which combination of films will gross the most amount of money during the game?
 

 

A) The Hobbit, Hot tub Time Machine, Annabelle, John Wick

B) Hunger Games, Horrible Bosses, Dracula Untold, Annie

C) Interstellar, Dumb and Dumber, Alexander’s Very Bad Day, Paddington

D) Big Hero 6, Penguins, The Judge, Exodus,

 
Answer correctly: 25,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 20,000 points
State that you abstain: 5,000 points
 
 
15   Which combination of films will gross the smallest amount of money during the game?
 

A) The Interview, Annabelle, Unbroken, Ouija

B) Night at the Museum, The Best of Me, Blackhat, Laggies

C) Into the Woods, Addicted, Kitchen Sink, Left Behind

D) The Pyramid, Night Crawler, Beyond the Lights, St Vincent

 
Answer correctly: 25,000 points
Answer incorrectly: lose 20,000 points
State that you abstain: 5,000 points
 
 

 

You will find this thread here:

 

http://forums.boxoffice.com/index.php?/topic/16195-winter-game-prediction-thread-post-all-predictions-here/
 

 

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Prizes

 

1st place - $40 of forum membership

2nd place - $20 of forum membership

3rd Place - $10 of forum membership

 

 

 

 

(Caveat: Requires at least 25-30 people to enter the game, [which hopefully shouldn't be a problem] not going to give such prizes if it turns out there's only 5 of us :D )

 

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Just a small suggestion, and you can ignore this if you want but I would cut down on everything chas.  The summer game had way too much to score.  Maybe you are better at scoring than me, but the summer game will be trimmed.  IMO, maybe cut out one of the OW's or something.  Having so much preseason stuff to score is really stressful and time consuming.

 

Just an opinion.

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I may remove the WW Weekends before the game starts. Will see how the entry rate goes.

 

Please forgive me in advance for needlessly bumping this topic over and over to keep it above Fantasy box office on the main page :D

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WW stuff will be tough. So many wildcards. Release dates are so split in some cases. 

 

I am not complaining, it's only challenging

 

The WW Weekends may bite the bullet as winter is so bizarre with release dates. WW totals isn't going anywhere though.

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