Blankments Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 It isn't good enough? How?You sound like the 60 year-old men in the Academy. The difference between "quality entertainment" and "exciting entertainment" needs to be closed.Like say from last year, The Artist may have had great acting and great direction, but to general audiences it was tremendously boring.From this year, The Dark Knight Rises may not have been the most realistic film, but at least almost everybody who saw it liked it. That is, the other few who didn't are cinephiles who just look for the good acting in their, instead of actually enjoying the film.This year is honestly turning out better...Argo was both quality and exciting entertainment. Same with Silver Linings Playbook and Django Unchained. Maybe not so much Lincoln, but I guess half the U.S. population enjoyed it.I'd like to see Skyfall get nominated for BP too. If I had to take one movie off of my top 10 list, it would be Beasts. I only put it on there because it (somehow) appeared on the AFI Top 10 list. Honestly, that movie was polarizing in my mind.Even Going by this logic, Skyfall is still more likely to be nominated than DKR. Heck, I'd say with this logic, Avengers is more likely than DKR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Maybe a better reason is that ZDT is too political...Bigelow keeps trying to say it's not partisan but critics keep shifting it left. How can a movie about the biggest political points score by a leftist President not shift left? You bet that a right-winger wouldn`t want people reminded of that achievement. So of course that film-makers lean left since they wanted the story to be told, even though it techniclaly isn`t about Obama making the call but Chastain preparing terrain for it. But we all know that without that call, there wouldn`t be the kill. So... Leftist Hollywood must appreciate it. BOMB HOBBIT BOMB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Even Going by this logic, Skyfall is still more likely to be nominated than DKR. Heck, I'd say with this logic, Avengers is more likely than DKR. Maybe not the Avengers part, but the Skyfall part is definitely true. Not only did the AMPAS like it more than TDKR (which got a reportedly similar reaction as Lincoln at the official Academy screening at the Goldwyn) it's also much fresher on their minds as TDKR's Goldwyn official Academy screening was in July. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 My point was that general audiences seem to have a more overwhelmingly positive reactions to those two, compared to DKR's "It was good, but not as good as Dark Knight." Although, yeah, I'd think the Academy also would be more into Skyfall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 My point was that general audiences seem to have a more overwhelmingly positive reactions to those two, compared to DKR's "It was good, but not as good as Dark Knight." Although, yeah, I'd think the Academy also would be more into Skyfall.True, Skyfall's got some of the upperclass suave that TDKR doesn't have but most Oscar films do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieman Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Skyfall? Come on. It was a fun light action movie, but nothing profound or moving. Realistically, it shouldn't even be considered; not because it was bad but because it will never be nominated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Skyfall has a shot at Cinematography so some think that`s a sign of larger support. That`s pretty much it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Skyfall? Come on. It was a fun light action movie, but nothing profound or moving. Realistically, it shouldn't even be considered; not because it was bad but because it will never be nominated.I'm not saying it'll be nominated; I'm saying that anyone who thinks TDKR has a better chance than Skyfall's wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 How can a movie about the biggest political points score by a leftist President not shift left? You bet that a right-winger wouldn`t want people reminded of that achievement. So of course that film-makers lean left since they wanted the story to be told, even though it techniclaly isn`t about Obama making the call but Chastain preparing terrain for it. But we all know that without that call, there wouldn`t be the kill. So... Leftist Hollywood must appreciate it. BOMB HOBBIT BOMB! Except the film says that torture and other "enhanced" interrogation techniques were vital to obtaining the information leading to finding Bin Laden, the exact techniques carried out by the Bush administration that the "left" for years said were not only immoral but ineffective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Except the film says that torture and other "enhanced" interrogation techniques were vital to obtaining the information leading to finding Bin Laden, the exact techniques carried out by the Bush administration that the "left" for years said were not only immoral but ineffective.A torture scene really sounds off-putting. Couldn't they have gone around the obstacle instead of barrelling straight through it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sims Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Ladies, ladies, please. Skyfall and TDKR BOTH have no chance at getting nominated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Ladies, ladies, please. Skyfall and TDKR BOTH have no chance at getting nominated.Why? Cause Life Of Pi, the most boring movie in the season is better than the vibrant DKR?Old man alert! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Gary Scott Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 LOP is far from boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 SAG-bad news for Zero Dark Thrity.Only Braveheart has won without being nominated for best ensemble. Which was really due to it being the SAG's first year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 LOP is far from boring.I thought it was boring. It was basically Pi and a tiger doing random stuff on a fancy lifeboat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockNrollaDIM Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I have zero desire to watch Life of Pi. I don't care how many Oscars it's nominated for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 You know this is the first time since 2000 where it seems that there is no clear frontrunner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sims Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Why? Cause Life Of Pi, the most boring movie in the season is better than the vibrant DKR?Old man alert!WTF? Life of Pi is one of the least boring films of the year. See it again with some Ritalin in your system. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) Why? Cause Life Of Pi, the most boring movie in the season is better than the vibrant DKR?Old man alert!You realize Sims isn't in the Academy, right? He's not saying he is not voting for TDKR as one of the best films of the year, he's saying the Academy will not. And he's 100% right. And voting TDKR in would be like voting for Armageddon as one of the five nominees. Entertaining films, per say, but too many plot holes and inaccuracies to be a serious oscar contender. Edited December 12, 2012 by baumer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 You realize Sims isn't in the Academy, right? Wait....he isn't????? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
