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[Belakor]

Any grindcore fans in this forum?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[department store basement]

2 minutes ago, tribefan695 said:

Monsters U actually held better than Dory and TS3 at this point but it had a nasty collapse its third weekend. Hopefully Dory avoids that 

 

It will. MU had a huge collapse in its 3rd weekend because DM2 was released that weekend.

[MikeQ]

47 minutes ago, James said:

At this point Dory needs all the US money it can get, because it is not hitting 1B WW with those OS numbers. To give you a comparison, it opened in Spain and France this weekend. In France it did 1/3 of Nemo's opening and it also debuted way behind Nemo in Spain. In UK it will have a hard time thanks to the Brexit and Pets just registering an absolutely huge debut and looking at Germany there is no way it comes close to what Nemo did there. Also, it is hard to imagine it will match Nemo in Japan. So maybe 450m OS and 950M WW max. That is if it manages to hit 500m DOM which I very much doubt with Pets on the way. I think it will land somewhere around 900-920m. 

 

The argument that Finding Dory will have a "hard time" in the UK because Pets opened big is a fallacious one. That's been proven wrong time and time again, and we know that big well-received films can co-exist (all we have to do is look to last summer domestically with Inside Out, Jurassic World, and Minions -- Inside Out and Jurassic World co-existed beautifully, and Inside Out only dropped 40% against Minions huge $113 million opening weekend). Perhaps you know more about how the UK market behaves than I do; however, Finding Dory, from my knowledge, doesn't open until July 29th in the UK, so I'm not sure precisely what are you trying to argue.

 

What also confuses me is that in the same post you suggest the opposite logic domestically - that with Pets on the way, this will hurt Dory, rather than Dory's huge opening meaning Pets will have a hard time.

 

Certainly Dory's opening in France is very disappointing, but I would hesitate extrapolating that to other regions so readily. You don't mention, for example, that Dory is outdoing Nemo in most other comparable regions it has opened, such as Argentina, Australia, Russia, and obviously China. It has yet to open in Germany, Japan, UK, Mexico, etc, etc. It looks like most of it's biggest markets are in July.

 

So, I'm not sure that your overall argument holds up, from my perspective.

Peace,

Mike

 

 

[eddyxx]

1 hour ago, department store basement said:

 

It also had no 400m hits. Not even a 300m hit until August.

 

I think a marketplace full of mid sized hits is better than one full of flop after flop. YMMV. Ideally we would have the 2 or 3 300M hits and a bunch of 200M and 100M mid sized but hey wygd

[Jandrew]

Crazy how you wait on something for TWENTY years, then when it gets here, it literally is just a forgotten swift fart in the wind. 

 

Fox (mostly) dropped the ball on IDR. This shouldve been a real generational event, instead it just came and went. I didnt notice much marketing until the last week. What a waste of time.

 

If any movie is going to take so long to come out, it needs to have a memorable anticipation, opening, and following. Especially considering the market today is nothing like back then (which is why I dont give Fox all the blame).

[department store basement]

Just now, jandrew said:

Crazy how you wait on something for TWENTY years, then when it gets here, it literally is just a forgotten swift fart in the wind.

 

Did Dumb and Dumber To teach you anything?

Edited June 26, 2016 by department store basement

[That One Girl]

Fuck you Emmerich.  Fuck Resurgence.  You built me up for all this excitement and now I'm disappointed as fuck.

 

Fuck this world.

[Nova]

Just now, ThatOneGuy said:

Fuck you Emmerich.  Fuck Resurgence.  You built me up for all this excitement and now I'm disappointed as fuck.

 

Fuck this world.

That's quite a lot of fucks being given out for a film that deserves none. 

[dudalb]

2 minutes ago, jandrew said:

Crazy how you wait on something for TWENTY years, then when it gets here, it literally is just a forgotten swift fart in the wind. 

 

Fox (mostly) dropped the ball on IDR. This shouldve been a real generational event, instead it just came and went. I didnt notice much marketing until the last week. What a waste of time.

 

If any movie is going to take so long to come out, it needs to have a memorable anticipation, opening, and following. Especially considering the market today is nothing like back then (which is why I dont give Fox all the blame).

Fox marketed the hell out of IDR.Goldblum,Pullman,and Hemsworth were pushing the film very heavily in San Francisco during Superbowl week,and there have been plenty of TV ads.Problem was they had a weak product to sell.

[superweirdo87]

@marveldcfox says Fox is stingy especially with marketing budgets and bad at building buzz.

[That One Girl]

Fuck Dory?  More like fuck aliens.

[Eric the Minion]

2 hours ago, Nova said:

Pitch Perfect 3 will go on. The issue is that it's not just sequels that are flopping. Original stories are too. That's why it's refreshing to see movies like Central Intelligence and The Shallows do well respective to their budgets. Maybe what Hollywood should do, is actually start creating quality films instead of garbage regardless of whether they're sequels or not. If IDR was actually a good film, I'm sure people would have went out and watched it. But it's not and people aren't stupid. 

People didn't go see The Nice Guys though. 

[dudalb]

1 minute ago, superweirdo87 said:

@marveldcfox says Fox is stingy especially with marketing budgets and bad at building buzz.

 

I don't think all the marketing in the world could have sold this turkey to the public.

[eddyxx]

With all the bad WOM, I'm expecting IDR to have a huge drop next weekend. everyone who's seen it says its shit.

[Jandrew]

7 minutes ago, dudalb said:

Fox marketed the hell out of IDR.Goldblum,Pullman,and Hemsworth were pushing the film very heavily in San Francisco during Superbowl week,and there have been plenty of TV ads.Problem was they had a weak product to sell.

 

Who remembers anything from February. And im on the East Coast, what is San Francisco doing for me?

 

There was no consistency with the campaign. Nothing made this feel like weve waited and wanted for 20 long years.

Edited June 26, 2016 by jandrew

[filmlover]

Independence Day 2 made less in its first weekend than the original did in just its first two days...a Wednesday and a Thursday. Despite 20 years of inflation. What more needs to be said?

[FilmBuff]

17 minutes ago, department store basement said:

 

No he hasn't - Insidious Chapter 2 wasn't that acclaimed

You can CLEARLY tell he was more focused on Conjuring part 1 during the time.

[department store basement]

5 minutes ago, CoolEric258 said:

People didn't go see The Nice Guys though. 

 

Its audience was limited from the start. How many people would go to see a violent period piece? Not that many.

[Jandrew]

13 minutes ago, department store basement said:

 

Did Dumb and Dumber To teach you anything?

 

I liked your avatar better when it was blank.

[filmlover]

Tbh I think Fox did the best they could. The movie itself is a turd, so they really didn't have much they could've spun gold out of.