Fake Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 On 800 screens is already the biggest debute in India ?For Hollywood films, quite possible (local films get much bigger releases, record is 3000+).Avatar released on 650, DH2 on 600 and MI4 on 700. MI4 holds the record for biggest Hollywood debut in terms of gross with INR 26 crore ($5m+).Avengers could beat that, but I am staying conservative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 For Hollywood films, quite possible (local films get much bigger releases, record is 3000+).Avatar released on 650, DH2 on 600 and MI4 on 700. MI4 holds the record for biggest Hollywood debut in terms of gross with INR 26 crore ($5m+).Avengers could beat that, but I am staying conservative.But why ? Why hollywood films have limited releases ? Not enough people like them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentryTrans Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I once had JC, Battleship, Wrath, Titanic all over 400M. But they all bombed to the 200M+ range. The OS markets are in low trend now. hollywoodreporter Summer playdates come none too soon since first quarter overseas box office for the six American major studios was flat overall compared with their comparable collective take in 2011’s first three months, $2.934 billion versus $2.950 billion. The OS markets were not good in first quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentryTrans Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Why? Less than IM2 admissions?The admissions of Avengers will be more than IM2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 hollywoodreporterSummer playdates come none too soon since first quarter overseas box office for the six American major studios was flat overall compared with their comparable collective take in 2011’s first three months, $2.934 billion versus $2.950 billion.The OS markets were not good in first quarter.We have lost 4 400M OS potentials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentryTrans Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 We have lost 4 400M OS potentials.400m OS?There were 9 movies made more than 400m OS in 2011, all of them were big names in OS markets.OS markets aren't salvations for all high budget movies now and the emerging markets' capacities aren't big enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 But why ? Why hollywood films have limited releases ? Not enough people like them ?It is more to do about penetration. Hollywood movies only get released in multiplexes in bigger cities, since the audience for them is mainly there. Only a few films like SM3, 2012 and Avatar manage to get released in smaller centers and even that only happens after they have finished their blockbuster runs in cities and there are available prints.It is not like there isn't any audience in smaller towns, but they are very limited, and since single theaters still dominate these parts, it is not financially viable for theater owners to release Hollywood films. It is a chicken-and-egg type of situation; unless theaters start showing movies, the audience will not expand and unless the audience expands, theaters will not start showing them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 It is more to do about penetration. Hollywood movies only get released in multiplexes in bigger cities, since the audience for them is mainly there. Only a few films like SM3, 2012 and Avatar manage to get released in smaller centers and even that only happens after they have finished their blockbuster runs in cities and there are available prints.It is not like there isn't any audience in smaller towns, but they are very limited, and since single theaters still dominate these parts, it is not financially viable for theater owners to release Hollywood films. It is a chicken-and-egg type of situation; unless theaters start showing movies, the audience will not expand and unless the audience expands, theaters will not start showing them.Get it, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 It is more to do about penetration. Hollywood movies only get released in multiplexes in bigger cities, since the audience for them is mainly there. Only a few films like SM3, 2012 and Avatar manage to get released in smaller centers and even that only happens after they have finished their blockbuster runs in cities and there are available prints.It is not like there isn't any audience in smaller towns, but they are very limited, and since single theaters still dominate these parts, it is not financially viable for theater owners to release Hollywood films. It is a chicken-and-egg type of situation; unless theaters start showing movies, the audience will not expand and unless the audience expands, theaters will not start showing them.So, more urbanisation and more growth in India will mean more Hollywood penetration in the country.I hope, because the potential is extremely big there in the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 So, more urbanisation and more growth in India will mean more Hollywood penetration in the country.I hope, because the potential is extremely big there in the long term.Hopefully. In 2011, Hollywood's share in Indian box office was only just 8-10%. In the next 5-6 years, this figure should double. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 We have lost 4 400M OS potentials.John Carter was never going to reach 400M. It had absolutely no appeal. The fact that it made 200M still despite having very little appeal shows how strong the international market is becomingWrath was a sequel nobody wanted. I mean I am not saying the first film was hated but nobody was asking for a follow up to it. Both domestic and overseas. Especially since it was just more of the same. It logically decreased from the firstTitanic 3D is doing well overseas for a re release. Especially in ChinaBattleship it is too early to tell. Seems to be doing decent business for a 2D non sequel with no big starsInternational markets seem fine to me. Remember Journey 2 really shined there this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Sales here in denmark are very good. Not Potter ans Spiderman good, but still.I´m estimating a 70% 3D ratioAnyone else keeping track?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I see it tomorrow, can't wait!And tomorrow ---> first trends in the Paris Metropolitan Area (it's helpful to have French trends, with a 5 multiplyer). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Seeing it in 12 hours. Can't fucking wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertron Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Expect a HUGE opening here in Australia!It's midnight presales are through the roof! I'm expecting an AUD10m OW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Expect a HUGE opening here in Australia!It's midnight presales are through the roof!I'm expecting an AUD10m OW!AUD 10M is not that big at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Seems 2D prints are limited everywhere. Fool Disney ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertron Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 AUD 10M is not that big at all.IM2 did 9.5ish from memory, but this is opening on a Wednesday, as opposed to the usual Thursday!So I guess 12-13ish 5-day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 IM2 did 9.5ish from memory, but this is opening on a Wednesday, as opposed to the usual Thursday!So I guess 12-13ish 5-day!good. So 35ish AUD finish ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertron Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 good. So 35ish AUD finish ?It's a tough ask.. But not completely out of the question.I'm hoping for something like 13.5m 5-day / 32m Total Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
