Walt Disney Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Barnack said: The burn out risk would be if a large amount of them (and a lot of bad one) come out I imagine. Disney buying those properties back will help them control to flow even more to make the windows larger. Has long as DC/Marvel has an oligopoly on the major releases, they should be able to keep it alive more easily than an no one control the IP's free genre a la western or young adults dystopia. With that in mind and with Disney momemtum of less and less movies and being ok with months without a release and just make 10 movies a year I could see for the short term: An average year under the main Disney brand: 3-4 SH movie a year (including X-men, specially if they get their own X-men tv series on their streaming platform) 2 Classic live action adaptation 3 Animation (mix of pixar/disney animation) 1 nature type documentary 1 star wars 1 indiana jones or Pirates Already have their around 10-11 movie like they seem to be going for right there. I didn't see this before I replied, but this is exactly it. Getting FF and X-Men back will allow Disney to control the flow of superhero films to make sure there is no superhero fatigue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 34 minutes ago, AJG said: http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/disney-fox-goldman-sachs-centerview-jp-morgan-guggenheim-partners-1202634210/ $94bil Add an extra bil for the Battle Angel franchise 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) Here is my hope for the deal (assuming it actually does happen because it could still fall through): 1) Disney to get the 20th Century Fox brand name in the deal and use it to release R-rated films. 20th Century Fox is already a known name and can be used to replace Touchstone. This is the perfect chance for Disney to be able to make adult films without damaging its family brand. 2) Run Fox Searchlight like they ran Miramax. Without the shenanigans that Harvey Weinstein was pulling with Miramax, which was costing Disney money, Miramax would have done much better. 3) Move the X-Men and FF into the MCU and let Kevin Feige do his thing. This is pretty much guaranteed, and the only place where there is resistance to this idea is on this board. 4) Don't reduce the release schedule by much. Just because there will now be R-rated films from Fox doesn't mean Disney has to reduce its release schedule. There is room to release more than 12 films a year. 5) Re-brand the Regional Sports Networks as being affiliated with ESPN. Edited December 9, 2017 by Walt Disney 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 hours ago, dudalb said: Sooner or later, the General Audience will tire of the CBMs. The more come out, with less time between them, the quicker it will happen. Later could be next year or 20 years from now. Every year we hear superhero fatigue is around the corner. Been hearing about it annually since Jessica Alba was playing Invisible Woman. If the genre was on its last legs it wouldn't have generated 4.8 billion in revenue this year. No other genre can do that. Obvious audiences are still plenty hungry for funny book movies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJG Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, grey ghost said: Later could be next year or 20 years from now. Every year we hear superhero fatigue is around the corner. Been hearing about it annually since Jessica Alba was playing Invisible Woman. I thought superhero fatigue kicked in after Green Lantern... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franfar Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/6/2017 at 6:40 PM, Chewy said: Actually,,,,,,,, consolidation of wealth is GOOD you dummies It'll trickle down in no time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJackSparrow Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 I hope Disney makes a new live action Anastasia! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somebody85 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 3 hours ago, AJG said: http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/disney-fox-goldman-sachs-centerview-jp-morgan-guggenheim-partners-1202634210/ $94bil "Both companies have set teams of bankers on the case to work out the fine print." I'd be pretty surprised if it doesn't happen at this point. Not really seeing any other reports that would make me believe otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRA Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Apparently Fox sent out a memo to its employees that an announcement is coming soon. DUM DUM DUM! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRA Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) Will Disney Eventually Split in Two Post-Fox Merger? https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/will-disney-eventually-split-two-post-fox-merger-1065902 Edited December 9, 2017 by RRA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRA Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 This brings up a good question: does Disney end up owning the old Adam West Batman show? https://www.cbr.com/disney-marvel-fox-deal-batman-gotham-distribution-rights/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meriodejaneiro Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 10 hours ago, Walt Disney said: 4) Don't reduce the release schedule by much. Just because there will now be R-rated films from Fox doesn't mean Disney has to reduce its release schedule. There is room to release more than 12 films a year. They don't need to reduce, Disney should just re-schedule the movies along the year so they don't disturb each others. Fox's been releasing 15-20 films/year, and Disney 10-14 films/year, with a global market share around 25-30%. I don't think Disney is gonna remove from the board 15-20 films a year, (more than 10% of market share) unless they are certain that audience will go straight to their 10-14 Disney films. So releasing 25-30 movies/year under its different brands (Walt Disney, Marvel, Lucasfilm, Pixar, WDA, BlueSky, Fox, Searchlight) seems feasible. 2007 Rank Distributor Market Share Total Gross* Movies Tracked 2007 Movies** 3 Buena Vista 14.0% $1,350.2 21 13 6 20th Century Fox 10.5% $1,017.7 24 16 2008 Rank Distributor Market Share Total Gross* Movies Tracked 2008 Movies** 5 20th Century Fox 10.5% $1,014.3 24 20 6 Buena Vista 10.5% $1,011.7 18 13 2009 Rank Distributor Market Share Total Gross* Movies Tracked 2009 Movies** 4 20th Century Fox 13.1% $1,394.5 21 16 5 Buena Vista 11.5% $1,228.8 24 18 2010 Rank Distributor Market Share Total Gross* Movies Tracked 2010 Movies** 3 20th Century Fox 13.9% $1,482.2 20 17 4 Buena Vista 13.6% $1,456.4 17 14 2011 Rank Distributor Market Share Total Gross* Movies Tracked 2011 Movies** 4 Buena Vista 12.2% $1,240.7 17 14 6 20th Century Fox 9.6% $977.9 19 15 2012 Rank Distributor Market Share Total Gross* Movies Tracked 2012 Movies** 3 Buena Vista 13.9% $1,551.4 18 13 6 20th Century Fox 9.2% $1,025.4 19 15 2013 Rank Distributor Market Share Total Gross* Movies Tracked 2013 Movies** 2 Buena Vista 14.9% $1,711.0 17 10 6 20th Century Fox 9.2% $1,064.2 19 14 2014 Rank Distributor Market Share Total Gross* Movies Tracked 2014 Movies** 1 20th Century Fox 16.5% $1,790.5 22 17 2 Buena Vista 14.9% $1,617.5 17 13 2015 Rank Distributor Market Share Total Gross* Movies Tracked 2015 Movies** 2 Buena Vista 19.8% $2,280.2 15 11 4 20th Century Fox 11.3% $1,302.9 24 17 2016 Rank Distributor Market Share Total Gross* Movies Tracked 2016 Movies** 1 Buena Vista 26.3% $3,000.9 16 13 3 20th Century Fox 12.9% $1,468.9 22 16 2017 Rank Distributor Market Share Total Gross* Movies Tracked 2017 Movies** 2 Buena Vista 18.3% $1,803.9 11 7 4 20th Century Fox 12.2% $1,205.1 16 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 11 hours ago, Walt Disney said: 3) Move the X-Men and FF into the MCU and let Kevin Feige do his thing. This is pretty much guaranteed, and the only place where there is resistance to this idea is on this board. No one is interested in Fantastic Four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meriodejaneiro Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Krissykins said: No one is interested in Fantastic Four. FF will be the GOTG for the next MCU phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, meriodejaneiro said: FF will be the GOTG for the next MCU phase. Not when general audiences have been seriously burned by three really shitty films already. Third recast? No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meriodejaneiro Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Krissykins said: Not when general audiences have been seriously burned by three really shitty films already. Third recast? No thanks. Let disney-Marvel make their magic. Maybe they could start as a cameo on a teamed up movie, maybe in Doctor Strange 2 or GOTG3, before their own movie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 19 minutes ago, Krissykins said: Not when general audiences have been seriously burned by three really shitty films already. Third recast? No thanks. SM3, TASM, and TASM2 were all somewhat poorly reccieved. SMH, love it or hate it, came very close to becoming the biggest Spider-man movie WW. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 So Disney will probably make Hulu at least partially their main streaming site? This should add a huge amount of film and tv choices to the Hulu library, right? Or will Disney try to milk people with two individual streaming sites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Krissykins said: No one is interested in Fantastic Four. Marvel fans and Kevin Feige are. They do need to be rehabilitated for the GA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 50 minutes ago, grey ghost said: So Disney will probably make Hulu at least partially their main streaming site? This should add a huge amount of film and tv choices to the Hulu library, right? Or will Disney try to milk people with two individual streaming sites? It's very unclear at this point, which is probably because Disney doesn't know yet. I am sure internal discussions are taking place about this issue. Once someone with knowledge of the talks leaks it, then we'll have a better idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
