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Eric Atreides

Kin l August 31, 2018 l Lionsgate l Dennis Quaid, Zoe Kravitz, James Franco

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This looks extremely impressive for a directorial debut. This is the kind of film where people who shout for original content need to put their money where their mouth is. This looks very well executed. I'm also fairly happy that the film is no longer releasing a week before The Darkest Minds, which would have been direct competition. This kind of film is the reason why I still have hope for the industry as a whole.

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Ah, so this is the movie we will see way down the list behind a bunch of holdovers when Labor Day weekend actuals come out.


Last year we had two epics! TULIP FEVER and the CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND 40th Anniversary re-release! Yahoo!!

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1 hour ago, JB33 said:

Ah, so this is the movie we will see way down the list behind a bunch of holdovers when Labor Day weekend actuals come out.


Last year we had two epics! TULIP FEVER and the CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND 40th Anniversary re-release! Yahoo!!


This comment spurred me to research films that were released on labor day weekend in the past, and here's what I found.


(*All grosses are three-day grosses.*)


In 2010, the George Clooney actioner The American debuted in first with $16M, while the hardcore Robert Rodriguez action film Machete debuted in second with $14M. Both films doubled their budgets, the former worldwide, and the latter domestically.


In 2011, Focus Features' drama The Debt and Weinstein's found footage film Apollo 18 both managed to have healthy debuts that were above $10M, though it was understandably beaten by The Help, which was in its fourth weekend.


In 2012, Lionsgate's horror film The Possession debuted in first with $21M, while the Weinstein western Lawless debuted in second with $12M. Both films eventually doubled their budgets, though Lawless doubled its budget with its worldwide gross.


In 2013, Lee Daniel's The Butler was in its third weekend, where it got $20M and first place. But the concert documentary One Direction: This is Us debuted in second place with $18M. The comedy film Instructions Not Included debuted in fifth with $10M, before impressively legging its way above $40M in the domestic market alone.


In 2014, while four holdovers (Guardians of the Galaxy, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, If I Stay, and Let's Be Cops) were above them, the found footage horror film As Above / So Below and the Pierce Brosnan action film The November Man both scored  $10M debuts. Both films went on to double their budgets, though November Man did in the worldwide context.


In 2015, the faith-based holdover War Room lept above its first weekend total for an astounding hold, and took the number one spot with $13M when, just in the last weekend, it had debuted in second with $11M. Broad Green Pictures' dramedy A Walk in the Woods had a $10M debut, and the film went on to have the best gross in the distributor's history before they went bankrupt last year.


So there's been plenty of films releasing on labor day weekend that have been relative successes in their own right, grossing above the $10M milestone for mid-budget films. Upon closer examination, it's only been the past two years where labor day has *truly, unequivocally* been an off period. In 2016, The Light Between Oceans wasn't a success, and Morgan outright bombed. And in 2017, Tulip Fever bombed, while the Close Encounters of the Third Kind remake was not what people were interested in at the time. We can simply chalk those weekend's failures down to not having the films that people would actually see on that weekend, not being the kind of films that people actually have seen on that weekend.


But looking at Kin, then looking back at other mid-budget films that have done fairly well on this weekend, then looking at Kin's 'competition' from the weekend before (Replicas and Slender Man) that will surely leave audiences searching for a better film, then looking back at Kin, we see that Kin is a film that is certainly capable of having a healthy gross on its weekend. Lionsgate has successful experience with late August releases and Labor Day releases, and they likely know exactly what they are doing with this film where it is.


So to suggest that all Labor Day releases are hereby condemned to performing Tulip Fever numbers is to forgo historical evidences.

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1 minute ago, WrathOfHan said:

Is it? I thought the MCU Festival was taking over every IMAX



Kin, a pulse-pounding crime thriller with a sci-fi twist, is the story of an unexpected hero destined for greatness.

Chased by a vengeful criminal (James Franco) and a gang of otherworldly soldiers, a recently released ex-con (Jack Reynor) and his adopted teenage brother (Myles Truitt) are forced to go on the run with a weapon of mysterious origin as their only protection.

Summit Entertainment presents, a No Trace Camping / 21 Laps Entertainment production.

The IMAX release of Kin will be digitally re-mastered into the image and sound quality The IMAX Experience® with proprietary IMAX DMR® (Digital Re-mastering) technology. The crystal-clear images, coupled with IMAX's customized theatre geometry and powerful digital audio, create a unique environment that will make audiences feel as if they are in the movie.


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I dunno what Lionsgate's doing, but it's to the point where YouTube surveys are the only place I'm seeing this. Did they have one too many flops or something?


Edit: Twenty-One Laps Entertainment. There it is. They're the ones that just flopped with Darkest Minds. Something's happened in response to the correlation with one of the worst flops of the year.

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