Joker: Folie a Deux | October 4, 2024 | Lady Gaga is Harley Quinn in this 200M+ musical sequel

[Mad Max007]

Lol the DC official page on X posted about the filming being complete. As much as the fanboys like to act that it's not DC now, it's a DC product using the IP and its characters.

Edited Wednesday at 05:50 PM by Mad Max007

[YM!]

4 hours ago, ListenHunnyUrOver said:

I'm really disappointed in "critics" these days. Why aren't more coming to this film's defense? They gave every MCU movie a pass for a decade or more, but can't give genuinely creative and risky CBMs any slack? Critics seem to just push what the masses want, when they are supposed to be above that.

 

A few weeks prior to Joker 2, The Penguin had rave reviews and is far removed from the typical CBM. Execution matters.

[Mojoguy]

1 minute ago, YM! said:

A few weeks prior to Joker 2, The Penguin had rave reviews and is far removed from the typical CBM. Execution matters.

A Batman villian show told like the Godfather. They even have a villian that looks like Connie Corleone. Mind blown.

[WittyUsername]

5 minutes ago, Mad Max007 said:

Lol the DC official page on X posted about the filming being complete. As much as the fanboys like to act that it's not DC now, it's a DC product using the IP and its characters.

Again, no one said it’s not based on DC characters. The point is that everyone in Hollywood has made a point of saying that it was made independently of DC Studios, and Phillips seemingly had free rein to do what he wanted. I also don’t see how it can be called a “toy commercial”, when it doesn’t seem like it was made with merchandise in mind. 

[Firepower]

16 minutes ago, YM! said:

A few weeks prior to Joker 2, The Penguin had rave reviews and is far removed from the typical CBM. Execution matters.

The Penguin is not experimental art film, it has accessible and understandable template like The Sopranos, Scarface and other gangster stuff, just with DC skin.

[Eric is Smiling]

13 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

Again, no one said it’s not based on DC characters. The point is that everyone in Hollywood has made a point of saying that it was made independently of DC Studios, and Phillips seemingly had free rein to do what he wanted. I also don’t see how it can be called a “toy commercial”, when it doesn’t seem like it was made with merchandise in mind. 

Look I just use  “nostalgic toy commercial” as a good catch-all term for most tentpoles lol. If you have a better term, lemme know.

[YM!]

59 minutes ago, Firepower said:

The Penguin is not experimental art film, it has accessible and understandable template like The Sopranos, Scarface and other gangster stuff, just with DC skin.

Neither is the first Joker experimental and it was also a run of the mill drama with DC skin and it also got pretty good reviews.

[Firepower]

24 minutes ago, YM! said:

Neither is the first Joker experimental and it was also a run of the mill drama with DC skin and it also got pretty good reviews.

That's what I'm saying, both first Joker and The Penguin have recognizable and accessible templates that largely work for audiences, first Joker was made under the studio supervision.

[Reddroast]

4 hours ago, MightyDargon said:

I mean, if he's gonna immolate his career, doing an Ultimate Warrior biopic would be more interesting than a Hogan one. The Warrior Christmas comic is right about where Phillips "sensibility" lies.

Oh god no. Not the ultimate warrior Christmas comic 

[dudalb]

On 10/11/2024 at 5:38 PM, ListenHunnyUrOver said:

 

DP

Edited Wednesday at 08:46 PM by dudalb

[dudalb]

On 10/11/2024 at 5:38 PM, ListenHunnyUrOver said:

Honestly this whole ordeal is so depressing. Reminiscent of normies bullying the "weird" kid in school just because they are different.

Just being different does not mean being good.

I am glad that Philips had a chance to try something different in CBM's, but it did not turn out very well.

I do not give a shit about a filmmakers intentions, all I care about is what is on the screen. And Joker 2 was not a good film.

And I think the same about Megalopolis, and I am a pretty big Coppola fan.

[dudalb]

On 10/11/2024 at 5:38 PM, ListenHunnyUrOver said:

 

Triple post.

Edited Wednesday at 08:47 PM by dudalb

[dudalb]

3 hours ago, YM! said:

A few weeks prior to Joker 2, The Penguin had rave reviews and is far removed from the typical CBM. Execution matters.

THIS.THIS.THIS.

Critics are not coming to Joker 2' defenses because the critics think it is not a good movie.

It is not enough to be different,. you also have to be good.

This whole judging a movie by the filmmakers intentions rahter then what we see on the screen is bullshit, frankly.

Edited Wednesday at 08:48 PM by dudalb

[dudalb]

2 hours ago, Mojoguy said:

A Batman villian show told like the Godfather. They even have a villian that looks like Connie Corleone. Mind blown.

I saw an Interview with Matt Reeves interview and the inevitable 'What are you favorite films" question was asked, and first film he named was "The Godfather", So no big surprise he would choose to make a Mafia movie within the DC Universe. The nice thing is the Batman comics set it up perfectly.

And, yeah, I don't think the Sofia Falcone  looks like an evil Connie Corleone is a coincidence.

[WittyUsername]

2 hours ago, Eric is Smiling said:

Look I just use  “nostalgic toy commercial” as a good catch-all term for most tentpoles lol. If you have a better term, lemme know.

Fair enough. It is an IP movie at the very least. 

[dudalb]

7 hours ago, ListenHunnyUrOver said:

I disagree. Doing something unconventional and different in a genre should always be given more slack compared to a by-the-numbers formula.

Bullshit.

The only thing that matters is what is on  the screen.

[Firepower]

Phillips pretty much made Blonde (2022) for 200 mln. Imagine if someone made a movie where Batman is abused, raped and manipulated throught the whole thing until his miserable end. It's absolutely not neccessary, but it takes brass balls to use the highest point of your career to scam a major studio into paying 200 mln for such an off-putting movie like this and paying yourself 20 mln out of their pocket. For that reason, I'm kinda glad it exists, I highly doubt we'll see anything like this in a long time. I saw some complaints that this movie did a major damage to autheur blockbusters when they weren't doing well in the first place, but I don't think so, double impact of self-financed Horizon and Megalopolis did more damage.

Edited Wednesday at 09:35 PM by Firepower

[dudalb]

4 hours ago, YM! said:

A few weeks prior to Joker 2, The Penguin had rave reviews and is far removed from the typical CBM. Execution matters.

The Penguin..which I love.. definently owes more to 'The Godfather" "Goodfellas" and 'The Sopranos" then other CBM movies.

No surpise, really, "The GOdfather " is Matt Reeves favorite film.

[HummingLemon496]

Joker's keeping IMAX screens hostage for THREE WEEKS, holy crap

[HummingLemon496]

(wrong thread)

Edited yesterday at 12:19 AM by HummingLemon496