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Twisters | Uni/WB | July 19, 2024 | A remake (?) to the 1996 classic

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2 hours ago, 35MM-18 said:

 

 

I just don't want them to shoehorn it into these films thinking "we have to have a love story", and wind up seeing two characters whose actors don't have chemistry get together. Basically - do it right, think it through, write it properly, and make sure the actors have the right chemistry. Nothing too complicated or objectionable, I hope.

 

It used to be that studios forced in a romance that wasn't suited with actors that don't have chemistry and now movies that have romance written into them feel like it's studio notes to take them out. It's all bad. 

 

Random example but Wish was going to be a romance from the concept art thats how the movie was conceived and Disney very clearly had that removed for stupid "market research" reasons. Younger audiences don't like a lot of romance stuff because they stopped responding well to the half assed romance attempts, the solution shouldn't be let's just cut it all out entirely. 

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2 hours ago, wattage said:

It used to be that studios forced in a romance that wasn't suited with actors that don't have chemistry and now movies that have romance written into them feel like it's studio notes to take them out. It's all bad. 

 

Random example but Wish was going to be a romance from the concept art thats how the movie was conceived and Disney very clearly had that removed for stupid "market research" reasons. Younger audiences don't like a lot of romance stuff because they stopped responding well to the half assed romance attempts, the solution shouldn't be let's just cut it all out entirely. 

 

James Cameron shows if you make movies based on simple human emotions its quite relatable to wider audiences. 

 

Trying to appeal to a narrow aspect of Gen Z who think human relations are gross seems a dumb box office strategy 

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1 hour ago, Torontofan said:

 

James Cameron shows if you make movies based on simple human emotions its quite relatable to wider audiences. 

 

Trying to appeal to a narrow aspect of Gen Z who think human relations are gross seems a dumb box office strategy 

I really don't think this is a "gen-Z" thing. It fits quite nicely within very online millennial online discourse which presumably filters down into the creative choices people are making in their role as employees.

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The OS flop for this movie is because it feels very american. No new York or Los Angeles but the rural america. That's not the america sells more (the soundtrack with all these country artists only famous in Texas or whatever. No one in the world knows them ☺️).

 

Even hurricanes- tornados are a  kinda of american thing.

 

Btw yeah love stories sell well. Bring the love stories back and let people fuc.k. Make movies for real people.

Do you have to win oscars with blockbusters you need to listen to online stuff and not to what people want?.

 

And Who said gen z doesn't care about love stories when every book took phenomenon Is romantic or erotic. If It's true they're scared by sex they especially search It on fiction as escapism.

 

And btw these are extreme made up stories by media. They take the particular and they describe It as the general. 

 

 

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13 hours ago, Torontofan said:

 

James Cameron shows if you make movies based on simple human emotions its quite relatable to wider audiences. 

 

Trying to appeal to a narrow aspect of Gen Z who think human relations are gross seems a dumb box office strategy 

Especially when hollywood's previous strategy wasn't broke

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15 hours ago, PlatnumRoyce said:

I really don't think this is a "gen-Z" thing. It fits quite nicely within very online millennial online discourse which presumably filters down into the creative choices people are making in their role as employees.

 

I mean i do like there far less cringey sex scenes in movies and tv shows 

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2 hours ago, Eric Ripley said:

Moderation

 

We don’t need this hyperbole. The movie is t bombing because there was no kiss, we don’t need to insult Gen Z, not everybody is into romance. We’re done with all this.

Why is this out of bounds but litigating if "cancel culture exists" in bounds? I'm struggling to figure out the larger meta-cultural idea to eyeball what's in versus out of bounds in a way that's richer than personal taste.

 

Goofy or not, it's just a normal part of the hollywood press' litigation of this film's results. There's clearly something interesting in aggregate decisions about when to include/exclude sex/romance stuff and if it's resonating/not resonating. It's been a topic of critical conversation in a variety of lenses for over a decade.

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Sequel to this will be huge everywhere. Opening this movie before it opened in America was dumb. It would performed much better overseas if it had the label as an American break out hit. 

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Guys if you want to see Powell and Jones in a romance so bad, just not with each other, watch Crawdads and Anyone But You.

 

People went to see Twisters for the 🌪 not the ♥. 

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5 hours ago, Mojoguy said:

Guys if you want to see Powell and Jones in a romance so bad, just not with each other, watch Crawdads and Anyone But You.

 

People went to see Twisters for the 🌪 not the ♥. 

The original was a love story though at it's core

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