wattage Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 2 hours ago, 35MM-18 said: I just don't want them to shoehorn it into these films thinking "we have to have a love story", and wind up seeing two characters whose actors don't have chemistry get together. Basically - do it right, think it through, write it properly, and make sure the actors have the right chemistry. Nothing too complicated or objectionable, I hope. It used to be that studios forced in a romance that wasn't suited with actors that don't have chemistry and now movies that have romance written into them feel like it's studio notes to take them out. It's all bad. Random example but Wish was going to be a romance from the concept art thats how the movie was conceived and Disney very clearly had that removed for stupid "market research" reasons. Younger audiences don't like a lot of romance stuff because they stopped responding well to the half assed romance attempts, the solution shouldn't be let's just cut it all out entirely. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontofan Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 (edited) 2 hours ago, wattage said: It used to be that studios forced in a romance that wasn't suited with actors that don't have chemistry and now movies that have romance written into them feel like it's studio notes to take them out. It's all bad. Random example but Wish was going to be a romance from the concept art thats how the movie was conceived and Disney very clearly had that removed for stupid "market research" reasons. Younger audiences don't like a lot of romance stuff because they stopped responding well to the half assed romance attempts, the solution shouldn't be let's just cut it all out entirely. James Cameron shows if you make movies based on simple human emotions its quite relatable to wider audiences. Trying to appeal to a narrow aspect of Gen Z who think human relations are gross seems a dumb box office strategy Edited August 15 by Torontofan 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatnumRoyce Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 1 hour ago, Torontofan said: James Cameron shows if you make movies based on simple human emotions its quite relatable to wider audiences. Trying to appeal to a narrow aspect of Gen Z who think human relations are gross seems a dumb box office strategy I really don't think this is a "gen-Z" thing. It fits quite nicely within very online millennial online discourse which presumably filters down into the creative choices people are making in their role as employees. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Max007 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 I remember there being hate for "forced relationships" in movies like a decade ago from Jurassic World to Rogue One. They tried to appeal to that crowd it seems! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vale9001 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 The OS flop for this movie is because it feels very american. No new York or Los Angeles but the rural america. That's not the america sells more (the soundtrack with all these country artists only famous in Texas or whatever. No one in the world knows them ☺️). Even hurricanes- tornados are a kinda of american thing. Btw yeah love stories sell well. Bring the love stories back and let people fuc.k. Make movies for real people. Do you have to win oscars with blockbusters you need to listen to online stuff and not to what people want?. And Who said gen z doesn't care about love stories when every book took phenomenon Is romantic or erotic. If It's true they're scared by sex they especially search It on fiction as escapism. And btw these are extreme made up stories by media. They take the particular and they describe It as the general. 😅 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxon5 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 13 hours ago, Torontofan said: James Cameron shows if you make movies based on simple human emotions its quite relatable to wider audiences. Trying to appeal to a narrow aspect of Gen Z who think human relations are gross seems a dumb box office strategy Especially when hollywood's previous strategy wasn't broke 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric the Marxist Posted August 16 Author Share Posted August 16 Moderation We don’t need this hyperbole. The movie is t bombing because there was no kiss, we don’t need to insult Gen Z, not everybody is into romance. We’re done with all this. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Human Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Twister is the 7th best disk seller of July. Last month is was 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontofan Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 15 hours ago, PlatnumRoyce said: I really don't think this is a "gen-Z" thing. It fits quite nicely within very online millennial online discourse which presumably filters down into the creative choices people are making in their role as employees. I mean i do like there far less cringey sex scenes in movies and tv shows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatnumRoyce Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, Eric Ripley said: Moderation We don’t need this hyperbole. The movie is t bombing because there was no kiss, we don’t need to insult Gen Z, not everybody is into romance. We’re done with all this. Why is this out of bounds but litigating if "cancel culture exists" in bounds? I'm struggling to figure out the larger meta-cultural idea to eyeball what's in versus out of bounds in a way that's richer than personal taste. Goofy or not, it's just a normal part of the hollywood press' litigation of this film's results. There's clearly something interesting in aggregate decisions about when to include/exclude sex/romance stuff and if it's resonating/not resonating. It's been a topic of critical conversation in a variety of lenses for over a decade. Edited August 16 by PlatnumRoyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excel1 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Sequel to this will be huge everywhere. Opening this movie before it opened in America was dumb. It would performed much better overseas if it had the label as an American break out hit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 (edited) Guys if you want to see Powell and Jones in a romance so bad, just not with each other, watch Crawdads and Anyone But You. People went to see Twisters for the 🌪 not the ♥. Edited August 16 by Mojoguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 (edited) Edited August 16 by John Marston 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxon5 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 5 hours ago, Mojoguy said: Guys if you want to see Powell and Jones in a romance so bad, just not with each other, watch Crawdads and Anyone But You. People went to see Twisters for the 🌪 not the ♥. The original was a love story though at it's core 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontofan Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 On 8/16/2024 at 10:15 AM, John Marston said: There is a general pushback against lack of sex and romance in films and media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Soundtrack is still top 10 on Billboard in America. at $95m after a $4.7m weekend, it’ll pass $100m internationally at least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Now that it's had yet another good hold at the box office I propose an automatic threadban for anyone who complains about PVOD release dates from now on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...