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[miketheavenger]

I think Sing might be hurt by general animation fatigue. There can only be so many blockbusters of one genre in the same year and we've already had Zoomania, Pets and Dory this year (with Moana still to come).

[IndustriousAngel]

3 hours ago, miketheavenger said:

I think Sing might be hurt by general animation fatigue. There can only be so many blockbusters of one genre in the same year and we've already had Zoomania, Pets and Dory this year (with Moana still to come).

Yep, that's what I'm fearing too ... btw, Trolls is no blockbuster but seems very leggy and is still doing decent numbers, direct competition for the demo

[Aristis]

5 hours ago, miketheavenger said:

I think Sing might be hurt by general animation fatigue. There can only be so many blockbusters of one genre in the same year and we've already had Zoomania, Pets and Dory this year (with Moana still to come).

Ice Age was near Blockbuster-Level, too.

 

I think it'll OK this weekend.

[efialtes76]

Thursday estimates /insidekino.de forum:

 

New Releases:

Office Christmas Party-14,212

Sing-13,098(only evening)

 

Holdovers:

 

Fantastic Beasts-19,316

Wilkommen bei den Hartmanns-11,864

Arrival-8691

Sully-6516

Underworld-6375

[efialtes76]

Trend-1:

Sing-450K

Fantastic Beasts-225K

Office Christmas Party-140K

Wilkommen bei den Hartmanns-140K

Vampirschwestern 3-75K

Arrival-70K

Edited December 9, 2016 by efialtes76

[IndustriousAngel]

oh my, that's not good at all ... Sing lower than I hoped and "Vampirschwestern 3" also with a steep drop from the 2nd one. And FG with a drop >40% - hopefully it can go a bit up during the weekend!

 

The good news is that WbdH is holding good with a 20% drop against OCP, nice!

[Olive]

Not Bad for Sing ,it will get  holiday boost ,maybe end up more than 2M...

[efialtes76]

41 minutes ago, Olive said:

Not Bad for Sing ,it will get  holiday boost ,maybe end up more than 2M...

3M+

[George Parr]

Sounds like Fantastic Beasts gets hit relatively hard this weekend. I guess that won't be any different the weekend after before the holiday boost will come in.

[Aristis]

Friday Numbers: It seems that are Thursday numbers too - would probably have been low

 

Sing is first with about 30k

FB 25k

WbdH 16,5k

Office Christmas Party 14,5k

Arrival 10,5k

 

http://www.mediabiz.de/film/news/kinocharts-deutschland-trend-jetzt-ist-musik-drin/413681

Edited December 10, 2016 by Aristis

[RthDeadWov]

We roughly Sin around 350k admits(exclu prev), FB 260k

[IndustriousAngel]

Mediocre opening for Sing (ok, holidays are near, so may still go to 3mil total); FB again underestimated on Friday; 260k would be a drop of just a little over 30%, not >40%

 

Peterson&Findus at 50k, exactly like last weekend - very stable numbers!

Edited December 11, 2016 by IndustriousAngel

[Aristis]

With 150k Hartmann's is down only 15% now! At last it's holding better again . With Holidays coming there could still be much left!

 

With -26% (80k) Arrival holds good, too! Not as much as deserved but really good numbers for that movie.

Edited December 11, 2016 by Aristis

[George Parr]

Weekend estimates by insidekino:

 

1. Sing 420k (including previews)

2. Fantastic Beasts 260k

3. Wbd Hartmanns 160k

4. Office Christmas Party 137.5k

5. Arrival 80k

 

Vampirschwestern 3 85k (I guess including previews, else that number would be bigger than Arrival at 5th place)

Pettersson & Findus 57.5k

[terrestrial]

Are there any presale datas or ~ feelings... for SW R1?

[George Parr]

Not really all that much data on the insidekino forum. And it is kind of tough to compare it to Episode VII. I think the general impression was around 1 million admissions or maybe a bit more, so perhaps around half of TFA. That would be a whole lot lower than any of the four modern episodes, but the holidays may push it a bit closer over the longrun.

 

Just for reference: (opening weekend / week)

I: 1.79 million / 2.55 million

II: 1.85 / 2.59

III: 1.96 / 2.68

VII: 2.14 / 3.27

 

And Episode IV Special Edition from 1997: 957k opening week

[Aristis]

9 hours ago, George Parr said:

3. Wbd Hartmanns 160k

-10%

[IndustriousAngel]

Germany's Top20 last weekend:

	title	admissions	th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	Sing	384.918	588	655	420.717	3.717.564	-	1
2	Fantatstic Beasts	264.334	717	369	2.546.947	25.763.785	-32	4
3	Willkommen bei den Hartmanns	158.309	776	204	2.542.123	20.677.775	-11	6
4	Office Christmas Party	121.028	368	329	139.626	1.156.926	-	1
5	Arrival	81.812	464	176	439.476	3.665.115	-24	3
6	Die Vampirschwestern 3	71.757	500	144	85.971	562.239	-	1
7	Pettersson & Findus - Weihnachten	58.849	715	82	432.346	2.701.741	+17	6
8	Underworld 5	44.830	441	102	143.125	1.519.357	-42	2
9	Sully	38.379	362	106	135.347	1.128.62	-40	2
10	Trolls	30.479	474	64	1.092.033	7.918.943	-41	8
11	Florence Foster Jenkins	29.940	210	143	160.775	1.316.692	-25	3
12	Robbi, Tobbi und das Fliewatüüt	25.444	523	49	79.147	495.020	-32	2
13	Die Weihnachtsgeschichte	21.947	281	78	45.307		+67	3
14	Görümce	20.396	58	352	40.923	366.100	+36	2
15	Paterson	13.049	139	94	106.076	818.282	-15	4
16	Doctor Strange	12.933	191	68	1.442.143	15.769.344	-54	7
17	Jack Reacher 2	11.224	191	59	449.064	3.854.612	-50	5
18	Schubert in Love	10.902	109	100	13.290	110.368	-	1
19	Marie Curie	10.124	63	161	28.809	219.417	-3	2
20	L'Odysée	10.020	70	143	11.185	88.726	-	1

 

Sing made it to #1 - a bit behind expectations, but with holidays it still can reach 2,5 to 3mil total. Office Christmas Party - not good considering the theme, this one will fade fast once christmas is over. Vampirschwestern 3 continues the downwards trend of the franchise … among holdovers, Fantastic Beasts had an ok drop, but there were much better ones - especially Arrival, Florence Foster Jenkins and Willkommen bei den Hartmanns - and even healthy increases for christmas-themed family stuff. Doctor Strange dropped hard and will miss 1,5mil total, still a good run in a difficult market.

 

Next weekend: Rogue One is starting with Midnights on Thursday and will of course be #1; looking at presales I doubt if it will open to >1mil but best OW of the year should be  possible, and a total around 4mil should be the goal. Other distributors shied away from this date so it has the big screens all for itself!

[Giesi]

If RO starts under 1mio on the OW, 2016 would he the first year without a milli opener since 1994, when Lion King missed it barely.

http://www.insidekino.de/DJahr/DBOStartrekord.htm

[Aristis]

Petterson & Findus does really great! But it has so much cinemas

 

But the best occurrence this weekend: It is up from last year and that by a healthy 22% (Top20)! The last time that happened was the weekend 27. - 30. Oktober. So up to now it seems December could save the year from being that bad. We'll see how next weekend will contribute, when RO is obviously facing a tough task (SW7 had over 2,1M admissions).

 

I hope I'm just a pessimist