BO Germany/Austria: Dune first 2024 blockbuster (3mil admissions)

[Aristis]

3rd Trend:

 

Split is up to 255k now! -6% excluding Previews

La La Land down to 160k (Still up 2%)

Rings 100k

Moana 90k (Too -6%)

Edited February 5, 2017 by Aristis

[IndustriousAngel]

What a nice weekend, Split is a real surprise, family stuff with great holds ...

[el sid]

The Whisper Numbers:

Split 245/620
La La Land 160/825
Wendy 125/340
Blind Date 117.5/315
Rings over 100k
Sing 95/1845
xXx 80/515
Timm Thaler 75/85
RE6 72.5/220

Plötzlich Papa 70/770
Hidden Figures 60/80
Passengers 57.5/1155
Kundschafter 52.5/135
Sing 50/2310
Monster Trucks 47.5/115 (stayed almost flat)
A Streetcat Named Bob 40/240
Rogue One 27.5/3910
Manchester 27.5/130
Why Him? 25/400
The Great Wall 22.5/440
Live by Night 20/22.5

[nVIDIADriver]

4 minutes ago, el sid said:

The Whisper Numbers:

Split 245/620
La La Land 160/825
Wendy 125/340
Blind Date 117.5/315
Rings over 100k
Sing 95/1845
xXx 80/515
Timm Thaler 75/85
RE6 72.5/220

Plötzlich Papa 70/770
Hidden Figures 60/80
Passengers 57.5/1155
Kundschafter 52.5/135
Sing 50/2310
Monster Trucks 47.5/115 (stayed almost flat)
A Streetcat Named Bob 40/240
Rogue One 27.5/3910
Manchester 27.5/130
Why Him? 25/400
The Great Wall 22.5/440
Live by Night 20/22.5

For last weekend?

[el sid]

44 minutes ago, nVIDIADriver said:

For last weekend?

Yes. The first numbers are the weekend numbers and the second ones are the total admission numbers incl. Sunday. Or, for the new releases, the admissions counted with previews.

[IndustriousAngel]

a lot of releases with decent business atm but not a single sell-outer; well that will change very soon

 

In Austria, Rings led the chart; the surprise here is Why Him? that dropped <20%; LaLaLand is also doing excellent and prolongued business here. Austria is always a bit more frontloaded than Germany - bigger openings but steeper drops as a rule. So, Why Him? counting 15k admissions in its 4th weekend, after 40k OW, is really strong. Of course, 50SoG will hit equally hard here and occupy most good screens at least OW.

[IndustriousAngel]

Germany's Top20 last weekend:

	title	admissions	th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	Split	246.167	494	498	621.907	5.358.327	-8	2
2	La La Land	160.143	466	344	830.864	7.275.866	+3	4
3	Wendy	126.593	605	209	343.334	2.240.381	-11	2
4	Mein Blind Date mit dem Leben	117.172	360	325	327.569	2.664.634	-1	2
5	Rings	101.269	304	333	101.269	913.746	-	1
6	Moana	95.434	679	141	1.830.042	14.129.581	-1	7
7	xXx 3	81.186	570	142	518.511	5.708.138	-34	3
8	Timm Thaler oder Das verkaufte Lachen	75.729	557	136	87.788	587.739	-	1
9	Resident Evil 6	73.607	450	164	220.357	2.474.355	-35	2
10	Demain tout commence	70.532	479	147	782.116	6.432.730	-22	5
11	Hidden Figures	59.216	132	449	96.293	668.220	-	1
12	Passengers	56.061	424	132	1.151.283	11.762.207	-33	5
13	Kundschafter des Friedens	51.454	174	296	159.663	1.251.978	-9	2
14	Sing	49.025	481	102	2.309.011	18.246.149	-7	9
15	Monster Trucks	46.907	288	163	112.747	869.107	-8	2
16	A Streetcat Named Bob	38.584	422	91	237.644	1.859.695	-0	4
17	Ballerina	32.260	400	81	198.534	1.350.647	-6	4
18	Manchester by the Sea	28.268	112	252	128.460	1.083.689	-9	3
19	Rogue One	27.752	246	113	3.909.887	43.947.846	-34	8
20	Feuerwehrmann Sam - Außerirdische	26.846	490	55	228.668	1.425.279	-25	5

 

With no big openers, the market was very friendly for holdovers - La La Land with its 3rd increase in as many weeks, and Split is a surprise success, too. Moana will cross 2mil total, very good after the weak start. Look at those PTA's, many of the releases seem to be very well received!

 

Next weekend: 50 Shades Darker will top the weekend by a wide margin. The first one counted 1,35 mil admissions OW and seemed to satisfy so we might even see a bit more this time, theaters sure are trying to milk that cow for what it's worth. As contrast program, The Lego Batman Movie is perfectly placed, it takes many afternoon and early evening shows - The Lego Movie was not that big an opener but was extremely well received and Batman is of course a draw, so we should see >500k admissions. We have quite a few bookings for it, too, a sure sign that it is able to transcend the families-only barrier. The Space Between Us and other small releases won't make much of a splash amongs such competition … Holdovers are bound to suffer because of screen anaemia but I can definitely see something like LaLaLand or comedies have comparatively nice drops, again.

[Dingdong123]

Moana has held really well. Amazing!

[IndustriousAngel]

btw, Austria's January numbers are in and it's been the worst in recent history - the top 3 releases were Why Him?, Demain tout commence and Passengers. Not too disturbing since it was a very short Jan (5th-29th) and the big 2017 releases are just starting.

[Aristis]

And with the official FFA-Numbers we know that 2016 was at least above 120M admissions...

 

121,1M (-13% against last year), €1.023M (-12,4%). I feared that worse could happen... But it's a pretty bad number.

 

2017 can only get better...

Edited February 8, 2017 by Aristis

[Giesi]

5 hours ago, Aristis said:

And with the official FFA-Numbers we know that 2016 was at least above 120M admissions...

 

121,1M (-13% against last year), €1.023M (-12,4%). I feared that worse could happen... But it's a pretty bad number.

 

2017 can only get better...

And the unfortunate part in all this is that the film industry can celebrate the 4th best year ever - in terms of revenue. 

[IndustriousAngel]

6 hours ago, Giesi said:

And the unfortunate part in all this is that the film industry can celebrate the 4th best year ever - in terms of revenue. 

Only if you don't consider inflation, so it's a pretty pointless point.

[el sid]

The Thursday estimates (source insidekino.de/forum):

New Releases:

Fifty Shades Darker: 159k (starts in 710 theaters, pretty bad reviews between 2 and 6/10 - a little bit worse than part 1, had 1.35M admissions on its first weekend two years ago)
The LEGO Batman Movie: 6k evening only! (535, ok to very good reviews, often in very small cinema halls in the evening, The Lego Movie had 1.3M total admissions three years ago)
The Space Between Us: under 1k (168, ok reviews)
The Girl with All the Gifts: ?k (ca. 90, very good reviews)
Madame Christine und ihre unerwarteten Gäste: ?k (ca. 80, mixed reviews)
Der Eid: ?k (ca. 50, good reviews)

Holdovers:

Split: 16k (30k)
La La Land: 15k (22k)
Mein Blind Date mit dem Leben: 8.5k (12.5k)
Hidden Figures: 7.5k (7k) – a very good hold
Resi Evil 6: 5.5k (9k)
xXx3: 6k (8k) - not bad, maybe it works as an alternative program
Rings: 4.5k (15k)

So still some good holds but as IndustriousAngel said, many holdovers suffer because of the screen anaemia.

[IndustriousAngel]

50SoG2 number seems weak ... of course, this year we had a lot of previews and Ladie's evenings so a lot of demand was moved to Wed.

[el sid]

47 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said:

50SoG2 number seems weak ... of course, this year we had a lot of previews and Ladie's evenings so a lot of demand was moved to Wed.

Yes, I read it had showtimes in ca. 600 theaters on Wednesday so a Thursday-Thursday comparison wouldn't make any sense.
But from the look at the reservations in several theaters, the demand seemed not to be overwhelming today. The mathäser reservations (ok, it's pretty male-dominated) were of course good but far from "we need an extra cinema hall".

[IndustriousAngel]

7 hours ago, el sid said:

Yes, I read it had showtimes in ca. 600 theaters on Wednesday so a Thursday-Thursday comparison wouldn't make any sense.
But from the look at the reservations in several theaters, the demand seemed not to be overwhelming today. The mathäser reservations (ok, it's pretty male-dominated) were of course good but far from "we need an extra cinema hall".

same here ... maybe the craze was shortlived and is ebbing already. Still will make a shitload of money, with production costs as low, so we'll see some more of them I guess.

[Aristis]

The 1st Trend is not that good in my eyes...

 

FSOG 2 925k (MarkG says that 1M isn't impossible but that would, probably, require WOM, this movie does not have...) FSOG 1 1,35M

Lego Batman 275k (about the same as The Lego Movie, I hoped for better...)

Split 150k (-40%)

La La Land 105k (-35%)

Wendy 95k (-25%)

 

Edited February 10, 2017 by Aristis

[IndustriousAngel]

first estimates from insidekino.de:

#1: 50SoG2 - 925k (incl. previews), a bit of a letdown

#2: Lego Batman - 275k (was hoping for more, too)

#3: Split - 150k (-40%)

#4: LaLaLand - 105k (-35%)

#5: Wendy - 95k (-25%)

 

Overall a lot weaker than I was hoping

[el sid]

Some Thursday actuals (source Blickpunkt:Film):

New Releases:

50SD: 140k
The LEGO Batman Movie: 25k whole day
The Space Between Us: 2.5k
Madame Christine: 2.7k

Holdovers:

Split: 18k
La La Land: 15k – the first time the estimate was right
Mein Blind Date mit dem Leben: 8k
 

The LEGO Batman Movie number – 25k – is also almost equivalent with the The Lego Movie number two years ago. I didn't expect more just because it shows „only“ Batman. And maybe it has the same legs, the trailer is cute and the WOM (also from moviegoers so far, not only critics) is fine. By the way I read several reviews now where it said it is by far not only a kids movie, more the other way around.

[Rthmessiah]

13 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

first estimates from insidekino.de:

#1: 50SoG2 - 925k (incl. previews), a bit of a letdown

#2: Lego Batman - 275k (was hoping for more, too)

#3: Split - 150k (-40%)

#4: LaLaLand - 105k (-35%)

#5: Wendy - 95k (-25%)

 

Overall a lot weaker than I was hoping

FSD lose out bigtime sat compared to FSOG,  Wed prev- Fri looking to be about same as FSOG Th-Fri