Rebeccas Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 What was the breakdown for DS2’s WOM? I feel like it was more or less similar everyone (not good lol). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 hours ago, BruiseCruise said: How is audience reaction in these markets? Reaction in India is positive. Top Gun 2 - 92% Shang Chi - 90% Endgame - 89% Infinity War - 88% Thor L&T - 88% Thor Ragnarok - 88% Minions - 87% DS: MoM - 82% Eternals - 78% Jurassic World Dominion - 67% Some mixture of MCU and recent movies here. Couldn't get a number for movies like Batman, Black Widow and No Way Home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruiseCruise Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said: Reaction in India is positive. Top Gun 2 - 92% Shang Chi - 90% Endgame - 89% Infinity War - 88% Thor L&T - 88% Thor Ragnarok - 88% Minions - 87% DS: MoM - 82% Eternals - 78% Jurassic World Dominion - 67% Some mixture of MCU and recent movies here. Couldn't get a number for movies like Batman, Black Widow and No Way Home. Oh wow surprised at the TG2 number since the gross is pretty lower over there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, THUNDER BIRD said: First of all, BMS ratings in India are not at all trustworthy, Infact none of the online ratings are, India is through and through ground market. Secondly Eternals was a big bore, dull, humorless and having 2 of the worst Marvel leads ever. But Thor is MASS, Thor is a highly popular character in India, L&T has comedy, action and many moments that bring out cheer from audiences. I'm gonna quote you over here, don't wanna derail SK thread with India talk. Regarding BMS, it is the only mass rating system in India if I am not wrong (that is used exclusively by Indians). It would have been preferable if BMS had instituted a system where only those who have booked a ticket can rate a movie (like with RT verified). But at least one requires a BMS account to rate the movie. It may not be the best but it is one of the only available. Besides as long as you are comparing BMS score of one movie with BMS score of another movie, there shouldn't be much error with ratings (barring movies that get brigaded by people). BTW what does Thor is MASS means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factcheck Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 29 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said: Reaction in India is positive. Top Gun 2 - 92% Shang Chi - 90% Endgame - 89% Infinity War - 88% Thor L&T - 88% Thor Ragnarok - 88% Minions - 87% DS: MoM - 82% Eternals - 78% Jurassic World Dominion - 67% Some mixture of MCU and recent movies here. Couldn't get a number for movies like Batman, Black Widow and No Way Home. Thor has most fanboys in India, they'll rate it higher even if movie is average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said: I'm gonna quote you over here, don't wanna derail SK thread with India talk. Regarding BMS, it is the only mass rating system in India if I am not wrong (that is used exclusively by Indians). It would have been preferable if BMS had instituted a system where only those who have booked a ticket can rate a movie (like with RT verified). But at least one requires a BMS account to rate the movie. It may not be the best but it is one of the only available. Besides as long as you are comparing BMS score of one movie with BMS score of another movie, there shouldn't be much error with ratings (barring movies that get brigaded by people). BTW what does Thor is MASS means? BMS isn't as prophetic as Maoyan or Egg but a good measure for most movies. It get spammed at times but still fine. Also, if BMS has a bad score, that means the WOM is certainly bad. But a good score is open for interpretation. As for Mass thing. It is generally to convey the type of content that reaches enmasses. Generally masala action is what reaches everywhere. Thor having that image, especially thanks to Wakanda entry & Ragnarok is more mass hero than say Black Panther. Thor is only second to Tony in a recent survey by Ormax https://twitter.com/OrmaxMedia/status/1539953439488282625 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Factcheck said: Thor has most fanboys in India, they'll rate it higher even if movie is average. Don't think Thor has many Thor only fans. It will be almost a full Venn of who loves Thor loves Marvel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said: BMS isn't as prophetic as Maoyan or Egg but a good measure for most movies. It get spammed at times but still fine. Also, if BMS has a bad score, that means the WOM is certainly bad. But a good score is open for interpretation. As for Mass thing. It is generally to convey the type of content that reaches enmasses. Generally masala action is what reaches everywhere. Thor having that image, especially thanks to Wakanda entry & Ragnarok is more mass hero than say Black Panther. Thor is only second to Tony in a recent survey by Ormax https://twitter.com/OrmaxMedia/status/1539953439488282625 Surprising that Spider-Man is lower than Thor, given that Solo Spiderman movies have always done incredibly well in India. I guess one explanation could be that Thor is 2nd due to recency bias given that the poll was conducted in June when hype and awareness for an upcoming Thor movie would have been at the peak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factcheck Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Just now, charlie Jatinder said: Don't think Thor has many Thor only fans. It will be almost a full Venn of who loves Thor loves Marvel I'm saying Thor is the most fav superhero/has lot of fanboys in India so there come some bias in rating. And some of the Thor fans in India are highly sexist/misogynist, so they don't love everything that Marvel produce, a lot of hate for Captain Marvel & other Marvel female heroes come from this group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 minute ago, ZeeSoh said: Surprising that Spider-Man is lower than Thor, given that Solo Spiderman movies have always done incredibly well in India. I guess one explanation could be that Thor is 2nd due to recency bias given that the poll was conducted in June when hype and awareness for an upcoming Thor movie would have been at the peak. One problem was you could pick only one. I totally expected Thor to be no. 2. He has been huge after Wakanda entry. I think Strange would have been higher if they allowed to pick 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Factcheck said: I'm saying Thor is the most fav superhero/has lot of fanboys in India so there come some bias in rating. And some of the Thor fans in India are highly sexist/misogynist, so they don't love everything that Marvel produce, a lot of hate for Captain Marvel & other Marvel female heroes come from this group. Lol. None of that is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THUNDER BIRD Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said: Surprising that Spider-Man is lower than Thor, given that Solo Spiderman movies have always done incredibly well in India. I guess one explanation could be that Thor is 2nd due to recency bias given that the poll was conducted in June when hype and awareness for an upcoming Thor movie would have been at the peak. Tom Holland is well, not on the level of Tobey in popularity here. Maybe even Andrew. Spiderman movies have always done well, Spiderman movies had 5 back to back Opening records for Hollywood movies in India. The first Spiderman movie that couldn't break Opening record in India was Homecoming and FFH didn't do that well too. Deadpool 2 opened as big as FFH and he's a 2 movie old character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THUNDER BIRD Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Also had Spiderman NWH been normal Tom Holland Spiderman 3, it would open lesser than Thor 4. Rather than being 2nd biggest Hollywood opener in India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factcheck Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said: Lol. None of that is true. What not true? That some of Thor fans are misogynist or bias rating bc of fanboys happens? Bias rating happen for every superhero who is popular whether it is SM or Batman or Thor. Edited July 7, 2022 by Factcheck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, THUNDER BIRD said: Rather than being 2nd biggest Hollywood opener in India. 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THUNDER BIRD Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 28 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said: 3rd 2nd or 3rd, point still stands. Tom Holland is not MASS..!! Well not Atleast the Old Spidey level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doffy Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Yeah most of Indians love tobey more than Tom and Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doffy Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 hours ago, BruiseCruise said: Oh wow surprised at the TG2 number since the gross is pretty lower over there Tgm is different and also Indians love heavy cgi movies unlike tgm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Rock Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Think more than Thor or Holland or others popularity it is the Marvel brand which is working big time in India. Most of the Marvel movies are having huge openings and even bigger than most Bollywood movies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasNicole Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Valonqar said: What most markets? Korea, Brazil and? Maybe I didn't check other market threads but negative talk around here was only from these two. Not even Brazil is bad from what i'm seeing, most people are liking it a lot On social media at least right after previews DS2 was being trashed here, Thor was positive. There was some people hating, but looks like a minority tbh. The reviews was bad, audience reception? So far it's good. Edited July 7, 2022 by ThomasNicole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
