Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania — Weekend Thread | 105.5M 3-Day, 120M 4-Day

[MovieMan89]

I will give MCU credit for still having quite a bit of draw power for an AM movie this panned to be able to scrape 100 on OW. But movies like this are absolutely starting to chip away at that draw power. Again, bottom is gonna fall out sooner than later if they don’t really get a clear vision for the franchise  going that the GA are excited for. 

[Borobudur]

1 hour ago, MikeQ said:

Who, a month or two ago, thought Way of Water would be in second place this weekend?

Its 10th weekend, and with only a 15% drop against Ant-Man (likely better with actuals, given the Sunday projection).

 

Ant-Man seems poised to increase with actuals, too. Saturday was strong. Any potential impacts of WOM will likely be seen most during weekdays.

 

Peace,

Mike

Funny enough some people keep saying that Avatar 2 hold well because of limited competition but here we are the movie -15% facing a could be $105m+ opener. 

 

On 2/18/2023 at 6:04 PM, CrashBandicoot81 said:

The MCU has definitely peaked at Endgame. This will definitely to be frontloaded as the fanbase who loves MCU will show up to watch this movie OW and not anyone else. Heck the diehard fans don't exactly love this movie either. Can't blame them. This movie is just bad like most of the Phase 4 movies.

We are in the age that horror's 2nd weekend hold is better than MCU films now. 

[MovieMan89]

PiB is going to end up only mildly less impressive than The Greatest Showman’s run. Insane, I hope Disney is truly taking note with how they’ve butchered handling animation this decade. 

[Godzilla]

What's the budget on this? $250M? At least close to it. It might not ever be profitable. 

[The Dark Alfred]

How things changed for MCU. Some people here were downplaying THOR's decent OW, expecting 200m and now celebrating 100m for a phase opener, big villain revealer. It's an ok start. We'll see what WoM it is getting, but one thing is certain, it won't be good.

 

Strong hold for A2, 680m is doable if it keeps it up.

Edited February 19, 2023 by The Dark Alfred

[keysersoze123]

I think friday/saturday numbers for Ant 3 are solid. We wont see WOM impact till wednesday. That said presales for today is about what Disney has estimated but expecting better walkups than what presales indicate. Though the holiday is not universal and so evening shows ought to slow down. Weekdays next week should be boosted as well as school is off many places. 

[MovieMan89]

Just now, Godzilla said:

What's the budget on this? $250M? At least close to it. It might not ever be profitable. 

Yeah, possible w that budget. Not to mention Indy risks not being profitable w its budget and Elemental is at big risk too w how Disney has totally damaged the Pixar brand name. Things really not looking that great for the Mouse this year. Mermaid needs to be huge. 

[JustLurking]

4 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

PiB is going to end up only mildly less impressive than The Greatest Showman’s run. Insane, I hope Disney is truly taking note with how they’ve butchered handling animation this decade. 

What is the lesson supposed to be here?

"Just make great films 5Head" like they're trying to shit out turds or something.

 

Even then PiB is going to top out at...500? Despite being a WOM sensation, which would at best break even theatrically with the budgets Disney gives their animated films nowadays.

[Brainbug]

1 hour ago, stuart360 said:

 

I dont really appreciate this.

[MovieMan89]

3 minutes ago, JustLurking said:

What is the lesson supposed to be here?

"Just make great films 5Head" like they're trying to shit out turds or something.

 

Even then PiB is going to top out at...500? Despite being a WOM sensation, which would at best break even theatrically with the budgets Disney gives their animated films nowadays.

For starters, both WDAS and Pixar’s efforts this year were extremely subpar by their standards. Stuff like that should not be getting greenlit to start with. Beyond that, Disney has screwed its animation by making it obvious to the GA that D+ is the priority for it, don’t even bother seeing it in theaters bc it will be streaming 2 weeks later. Except these movies can’t be profitable that way unless you get an Encanto pop culture sensation, which is like a once in a decade sort of thing. So it’s a combination of poor quality choices lately, over inflated budgets, and shit marketing and release strategies. DWA avoided all of those things with PiB, so good on them. 

[stuart360]

2 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

 

I dont really appreciate this.

It was done out of respect, dont worry Brainbug.

[Godzilla]

1 minute ago, MovieMan89 said:

Yeah, possible w that budget. Not to mention Indy risks not being profitable w its budget and Elemental is at big risk too w how Disney has totally damaged the Pixar brand name. Things really not looking that great for the Mouse this year. Mermaid needs to be huge. 

It might turn out amazing if those movies are good. 

[IronJimbo]

1 hour ago, Eric the Conqueror said:

Imagine being an Avatar fan and feeling persecuted. You’re in the same boat here my dude.

Just the fact you got 7+ likes here when stuart literally never said he felt persecuted is proving his point about the distain for Avatar on BOT

Because the haters got wrecked by Avatar's success, doesn't mean there aren't a bunch of haters here

 

 

Edited February 19, 2023 by IronJimbo

[MovieMan89]

12 minutes ago, Godzilla said:

It might turn out amazing if those movies are good. 

Indy would have to really rally Gen x and boomers to be a big hit w that budget, and that’s easier said than done. I don’t think Gen alpha/z is going to care at all no matter what and even Millennials are very iffy. 

[YM!]

23 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Yeah, possible w that budget. Not to mention Indy risks not being profitable w its budget and Elemental is at big risk too w how Disney has totally damaged the Pixar brand name. Things really not looking that great for the Mouse this year. Mermaid needs to be huge. 

Elemental needs both rave reviews and a kickass marketing campaign were it’s Disney’s main focus. The former I can see happening, the latter not so much. And it needs the latter for 200m+.

[IronJimbo]

1. Avatar

2. Endgame

3. Avatar: The Way of Water

4. Titanic

 

Top 5 will have 3 Avatar movies very soon

[YM!]

Going to predict the Marvel movies because I’m bored:

 

Quantumania: 108/123/250/540

Guardians: 170/435/875

Marvels (assuming decent reviews 60%+ on RT/A- CinemaScore): 120/300/750

New World Order (same Marvels criteria, and this is assuming it’s a psuedo Hulk movie): 135/335/700

Thunderbolts (same criteria as Marvels): 70/190/400

Blade (etc): 65/180/365

F4: 115/135/300/650

Kang Dynasty: 210/450/1300

[IronJimbo]

Just now, YM! said:

Going to predict the Marvel movies because I’m bored:

 

Quantumania: 108/123/250/540

Guardians: 170/435/875

Marvels (assuming decent reviews 60%+ on RT/A- CinemaScore): 120/300/750

New World Order (same Marvels criteria, and this is assuming it’s a psuedo Hulk movie): 135/335/700

Thunderbolts (same criteria as Marvels): 70/190/400

Blade (etc): 65/180/365

F4: 115/135/300/650

Kang Dynasty: 210/450/1300

is Kang Dynasty an Avengers movie?

[YM!]

2 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

is Kang Dynasty an Avengers movie?

Yes

[IronJimbo]

3 minutes ago, YM! said:

Yes

Ouch. I hope your predictions are true but i'm pessimistic