Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania — Weekend Thread | 105.5M 3-Day, 120M 4-Day

[John Marston]

15 minutes ago, Willowra said:

This might be the reason why we are not hearing any concrete news on whether they are making an Eternals sequel or not; this might be the reason why Iman Vellani said that she wonders whether Marvel introduced Starfox in Eternals "for the sake of it." The Armor Wars movie has already replaced Eternals, I think.

 

 

wonder how much it flopping hurt their plans. No doubt there were hoping for another GOTG type franchise and for them to be a big part of the next Avengers 

[Verrows]

1 hour ago, keysersoze123 said:

I would guess 26.5m sunday 

I wonder what @charlie Jatinder was seeing with his higher estimate. I think it was 28-29.

[GOGODanca]

So eternals was 272m, Thor 4 and BP2 were 250m each, Indiana Jones Last Dial is $294m and Avatar 2 was 460m, i know covid caused some of this but these budgets just seem out of control

[Joyous Legion]

Weekdays this week should be inflated yeah, you can just look at dailies for past years. Here’s sing 2 for instance:

Feb 18, 2022	7	$603,710	+278%	-11%	2,476	$244	$145,122,695	59
Feb 19, 2022	7	$1,252,515	+107%	-25%	2,476	$506	$146,375,210	60
Feb 20, 2022	7	$990,940	-21%	+36%	2,476	$400	$147,366,150	61
Feb 21, 2022	5	$972,305	-2%	+106%	2,476	$393	$148,338,455	62
Feb 22, 2022	7	$332,390	-66%	+57%	2,476	$134	$148,670,845	63
Feb 23, 2022	7	$209,635	-37%	+27%	2,476	$85	$148,880,480	64
Feb 24, 2022	7	$213,425	+2%	+33%	2,476	$86	$149,093,905	65

 

Tues-Th up some 40% vs Sat down 25%, nearly 100% boosted (140/75)

 

JTNL

Feb 14, 2020	8	$1,878,924	+459%	+51%	2,410	$780	$301,895,210	64
Feb 15, 2020	8	$2,089,947	+11%	-23%	2,410	$867	$303,985,157	65
Feb 16, 2020	8	$1,578,613	-24%	n/c	2,410	$655	$305,563,770	66
Feb 17, 2020	7	$1,254,204	-21%	+268%	2,410	$520	$306,817,974	67
Feb 18, 2020	8	$510,796	-59%	+2%	2,410	$212	$307,328,770	68
Feb 19, 2020	8	$326,791	-36%	-7%	2,410	$136	$307,655,561	69
Feb 20, 2020	8	$308,862	-5%	-8%	2,410	$128	$307,964,423	70

Not nearly as dramatic, ~ -5% after -23, relative advantage of some 25% (95/77).

 

NWH

Feb 18, 2022	4	$1,739,586	+202%	-9%	2,956	$588	$764,680,272	64
Feb 19, 2022	3	$3,168,597	+82%	-19%	2,956	$1,072	$767,848,869	65
Feb 20, 2022	3	$2,550,774	-19%	+52%	2,956	$863	$770,399,643	66
Feb 21, 2022	3	$1,770,762	-31%	+10%	2,956	$599	$772,170,405	67
Feb 22, 2022	3	$800,624	-55%	+6%	2,956	$271	$772,971,029	68
Feb 23, 2022	3	$580,425	-28%	-6%	2,956	$196	$773,551,454	69
Feb 24, 2022	3	$585,493	+1%	+2%	2,956	$198	$774,136,947	70

 

~102/81 (+25%)

 

JWttJ

 

Feb 16, 2018	5	$1,866,306	+210%	-16%	2,800	$667	$371,544,871	59
Feb 17, 2018	4	$3,365,539	+80%	-30%	2,800	$1,202	$374,910,410	60
Feb 18, 2018	4	$2,706,125	-20%	-10%	2,800	$966	$377,616,535	61
Feb 19, 2018	4	$2,076,936	-23%	+184%	2,800	$742	$379,693,471	62
Feb 20, 2018	5	$803,356	-61%	-3%	2,800	$287	$380,496,827	63
Feb 21, 2018	5	$558,032	-31%	-67%	2,800	$199	$381,054,859	64
Feb 22, 2018	4	$579,356	+4%	-4%	2,800	$207	$381,634,215	65

 

The wed horizontal is skewed by Valentine’s but basically 97/70 (+40%)

Edited February 20, 2023 by Favorite Fearless Legion

[Joyous Legion]

8 minutes ago, Verrows said:

I wonder what @charlie Jatinder was seeing with his higher estimate. I think it was 28-29.

May have just been from Menor’s data, which had an excellent hold today (-14%). It is a small chain at the end of the day though, keyser number is probably most reliable until we get some comScore 

[Mr Roark]

4 hours ago, eddyxx said:

 

Yeah but there were no 1billion films in 2014 or 2017. It happens. Dr. Strange would have DEFINITELY done it if not for China/Russia. That film needs a big fat asterisk on it.

We are talking hypothetically 3+ full years here…

 

An asterisk stating “this mixed bag toyed with $1B only because it came right after NWH”. 🤣

[eddyxx]

10 minutes ago, GOGODanca said:

So eternals was 272m, Thor 4 and BP2 were 250m each, Indiana Jones Last Dial is $294m and Avatar 2 was 460m, i know covid caused some of this but these budgets just seem out of control

At least Avatar 2 was for multiple films.

[eddyxx]

2 minutes ago, Mr Roark said:

We are talking hypothetically 3+ full years here…

 

An asterisk stating “this mixed bag toyed with $1B only because it came right after NWH”. 🤣

And captain marvel only grossed a billion because it was supposed to be important to endgame(it wasn’t). I wonder how many more times MCU can get away with that bait and switch after MOM.

[Spidey Freak]

45 minutes ago, eddyxx said:

Some one already told you but yeah MCU only lol. There were no billion dollar films before avengers so I started counting from 2013. It’s crazy that none of the films in 2017 did it though.

 

Both Ragnarok and Homecoming had huge increases over TDW and TASM2 

 

GOTG2 was the only mild disappointment because Gunn's very specific cultural frame of reference in 70s/80s American pop-culture doesn't relate very well to OS audiences. It will be interesting to see if GOTG3 will have slightly muted OS grosses too and what it means for Gunn's upcoming DC slate if he brings along some of his same sensibilities.

[THUNDER BIRD]

1 hour ago, eddyxx said:

People hate on Eternals but it’s production quality blows away most of the films that came after it.

What should we do about production quality if movie was a slog.

[Mr Roark]

Just pointing out that $460M for A2 has never been confirmed we only know is $400M+.

[Willowra]

14 minutes ago, eddyxx said:

And captain marvel only grossed a billion because it was supposed to be important to endgame(it wasn’t). I wonder how many more times MCU can get away with that bait and switch after MOM.

Captain Marvel's character was actually important for Endgame, as you've seen Endgame, you know that.

[Hatebox]

1 minute ago, Willowra said:

Captain Marvel's character was actually important for Endgame, as you've seen Endgame, you know that.

this is true - as deus ex machinas go she did a great job.

[Willowra]

6 minutes ago, Hatebox said:

this is true - as deus ex machinas go she did a great job.

She would've been deus ex machinas if she had killed Thanos. She only saved Tony's life, destroyed Thanos' ship, and prevented Thanos from doing Snap in her 6-minute cameo.

[Mr Roark]

Let’s see how hard it will drop next weekend but at least domestically (and in the UK) the people are always going to give the MCU a shot no matter how weak and filler a new entry is.

I don’t see future Avengers movies topping Endgame nor Spidey 4 (even with Venom in the mix) topping NWH but they will still make ridiculous business. Globally the MCU seems every day weaker but only because it collapsed in China, that boosted OS numbers for a very long time.

It’s pretty clear that Kang Dynasty will be built upon weaker foundations than IW, but people will show up anyway.

The MCU already had its peak but that doesn’t mean it is dying. If it is dying it will die extremely slowly and after a very big 2025/2026…

Edited February 20, 2023 by Mr Roark

[THUNDER BIRD]

MCU isn't dying, only thing that's dying are audiences brain cells after watching recent MCU movies.

 

And it's not the point that MCU is now slowing things down, what they've made, they have to release that. And i suppose this mess will keep going on till Multiverse saga isn't over.

 

 

[Mr Roark]

8 minutes ago, THUNDER BIRD said:

MCU isn't dying, only thing that's dying are audiences brain cells after watching recent MCU movies.

 

And it's not the point that MCU is now slowing things down, what they've made, they have to release that. And i suppose this mess will keep going on till Multiverse saga isn't over.

 

 

The last MCU film that I saw in a theater was Endgame. After that I only watched the two Spideys, on Netflix. My brain cells should be fine then.

Edited February 20, 2023 by Mr Roark

[charlie Jatinder]

4 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

I would guess 26.5m sunday 

Yeah that sample did overindex a lot. It is more like $25.5M.

[charlie Jatinder]

MCU is basically in DCEU 2016 stage. Films are shit, but goodwill is still working. 

 

Its just one Justice League away from crash and burning, though MCU goodwill is a lot higher than what DC with TDK trilogy had made for itself.

[Joyous Legion]

12 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

MCU is basically in DCEU 2016 stage. Films are shit, but goodwill is still working. 

 

Its just one Justice League away from crash and burning, though MCU goodwill is a lot higher than what DC with TDK trilogy had made for itself.

I don’t think full mcu can crash and burn unless saga 3 bad.    
 

Saga 2 is probably teetering on the edge though