The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[Cmasterclay]

Speak No Evil had its trailer in front of every single movie this entire summer and then got great reviews and still will barely hit double digits, original horror is in the mud.

[AniNate]

This isn't original though, which does seem to be a factor in the backlash

[Ryan C]

14 minutes ago, AniNate said:

This isn't original though, which does seem to be a factor in the backlash

 

Less so than any backlash, I think the reason why this probably won't break out is because this is a film that's skewing much older than the average horror film. 

 

The horror breakouts of the past few years (Longlegs, Smile, The Black Phone, M3GAN, etc.) broke out because they striked a chord with the 18-34 demographic. That's a demo that you need to get in order to have a breakout horror film. 

 

If not, you end up with something like The First Omen. 

[Eric Prime]

21 minutes ago, AniNate said:

This isn't original though, which does seem to be a factor in the backlash

Fine, non-NTC horror is in the mud. Is that better?

[AniNate]

The actual, boring explanation is every movie has unique circumstances that contribute overall to their ultimate box office performance. No one really cared about Speak No Evil for awhile until the decently positive reviews all of a sudden made it a martyr.

 

 

Edited September 10 by AniNate

[ringedmortality]

19 minutes ago, Eric Deetz said:

Fine, non-NTC horror is in the mud. Is that better?

yeah

[Eric Prime]

25 minutes ago, ringedmortality said:

yeah

Thank you daughter.

[Krissykins]

45 minutes ago, Eric Deetz said:

Fine, non-NTC horror is in the mud. Is that better?

Nope.

 

(Longlegs). 

[filmpalace]

On 9/9/2024 at 9:07 PM, filmpalace said:

Speak No Evil T-3

 

Tickets sold: 51 (+16)

Growth: 46%

Theatres: 2

Showtimes: 8

 

Better day than yesterday. I'm seeing the movie tomorrow, so my T-2 update will be a bit later. Review embargo also lifts tomorrow btw.

Speak No Evil T-2

 

Tickets sold: 72 (+21)

Growth: 41%

Theatres: 2

Showtimes: 8

 

Hoped for a better increase. Especially considering the positive reviews that came out today. A shame, really. I think the movie is quite good.

[TheFlatLannister]

FLORIDA 

JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX 

 

Thursday 

 

T-23

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
621	2932	129088	2.3%

^{*numbers taken as of 7:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

N/A

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

COMPS

T-23

(0.624x) of Beetlejuice $6.12M

(0.141x) of Deadpool x Wolverine $5.43M

(0.749x) of Dune 2 $6.96M

Comps AVG: $6.17M

 

ROOF BIG YIKES. Definitely not anywhere close to a $100M opener as things look right now. Not even sure if this is a $60M type of OW. Will almost certainly decrease from Joker 2019 OW

[HummingLemon496]

4 minutes ago, TheFlatLannister said:

FLORIDA 

JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX 

 

Thursday 

 

T-23

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
621	2932	129088	2.3%

^{*numbers taken as of 7:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

N/A

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

COMPS

T-23

(0.624x) of Beetlejuice $6.12M

(0.141x) of Deadpool x Wolverine $5.43M

(0.749x) of Dune 2 $6.96M

Comps AVG: $6.17M

 

ROOF BIG YIKES. Definitely not anywhere close to a $100M opener as things look right now. Not even sure if this is a $60M type of OW. Will almost certainly decrease from Joker 2019 OW

You said you would give me your OW/DOM/WW prediction.

[TheFlatLannister]

30 minutes ago, HummingLemon496 said:

You said you would give me your OW/DOM/WW prediction.

Check Joker thread. Don't want to derail 

[HummingLemon496]

1 minute ago, TheFlatLannister said:

Check Joker thread. Don't want to derail 

True, sorry.

[TheFlatLannister]

On 8/27/2024 at 2:21 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Expecting very good start to presales for Joker, but nothing crazy, so there should be no panic in the first day(s) 

 

presales won’t matter as much unless they just suck 

Just want to revisit this. *They suck*

 

Nothing is set in stone, but yeah can't see a way to $100M, because that would need over $15M in previews. Not even seeing double digits right now. 

[HummingLemon496]

1 minute ago, TheFlatLannister said:

Just want to revisit this. *They suck*

 

Nothing is set in stone, but yeah can't see a way to $100M, because that would need over $15M in previews. Not even seeing double digits right now. 

Bro I said $100M was locked and that $150M was where it was aiming 

 

I swear to god whenever I predict something the complete fucking opposite happens. 

[Speedorito]

If a safe bet like Joker 2 is floundering then the fall/holiday season might be rough waters. Moana 2 is the only film that’s safe.

[Bob Train]

2 minutes ago, Speedorito said:

If a safe bet like Joker 2 is floundering then the fall/holiday season might be rough waters. Moana 2 is the only film that’s safe.

Disagree, that's like saying Furiosa or Fall Guy flopping means the rest of the Summer would flop. Obviously that's not what happened.

[AniNate]

That's never how it works. Just looking for patterns where there are none.

[TheFlatLannister]

Currently running Orlando. Lets see how Joker compares to Flash, Aquaman, Marvels, Blue Beetle

[Speedorito]

Just now, Bob Train said:

Disagree, that's like saying Furiosa or Fall Guy flopping means the rest of the Summer would flop. Obviously that's not what happened.

Despite the meltdowns over those films bombing, The Fall Guy was an overhyped action-comedy and Furiosa was an Charlize Theron-less prequel to a film that made 400M nearly a decade ago. They’re absolutely nothing like Joker.