Rsyu Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 If this keeps up, Big Hero 6 looks to perform very well indeed for an animated feature, even in comparison to those from DWA. I think most people were hoping that it wouldn't just do well for an animated feature but do numbers comparable to successful live action films too. It also has the added benefit of direct goodwill from Frozen, something all the other preceding animated films lacked. They haven't embraced any other WDAS (or Pixar, for that matter) animated feature like they have Big Hero 6, either, though. For what it's worth, it's doing a lot better than I expected Frozen to do last year, and close to the upside that I merely hoped for and considered remotely possible. From what I recall many people were thinking 2M-3M admissions for Frozen last year which is where I think BH6 will more or less land. Also, like I said, none of them had goodwill from a behemoth film like Frozen to boost it. Well, BH6 has surpassed other animated musicals and seemingly will surpass some (or most or maybe all, who knows?) DWA movies, too. To which animated musicals are you referring to? Most that I'm aware of were released when the box office wasn't as large as it is now. With films like Tangled, the musical numbers was very poorly received hence the bad numbers. But that aside I was more or less saying that a decent musical element would have helped it's box office numbers since Koreans dig that kind of film. And no, I highly doubt BH6 will be challenging KFP1-2. It would require very good legs to challenge Shrek or HTTYD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingdong123 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Big Hero 6 remained on par despite losing a fifth of it's showtimes Walt Disney Animated Studio productions (Admissions: 2002~) 1. 10,296,101 Frozen (2014) 2. 1,058,602 Big Hero 6 (2015) 3. 1,011,163 Tangled (2010) 4. 918,299 Wreck-it-Ralph (2012) 5. 757,337 Bolt (2008) 6. 584,706 Chicken Little (2005) 7. 352,691 Brother Bear (2003) 8. 235,724 Treasure Planet (2002) 9. 110,963 Meet the Robinsons (2007) 10. 105,654 The Princess and the Frog (2009) 11. 14,396 Home on the Range (2004) Lol those WDAS films look like a complete flop in comparison to Frozen. And yasssss at BH6 snatching that runner up slot already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsyu Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 South Korea Daily Box Office (January 29) -Admissions (Total Adm) Daily% Gross (weekly%) [sC] <Title> 1. 80,453 (12,298,517) +9.02% $530K (-7.16%) [473] <Ode to my Father> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. 74,378 (1,364,395) -23.4% $525K (-42.2%) [608] <Gangnam Blues> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. 67,980 (1,128,049) -10.9% $463K (-28.3%) [577] <Big Hero 6> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. 40,127 (104,505) -33.6% $262K (--) [420] <Shoot me in the heart> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. 23,916 (1,685,094) -20.8% $159K (-57.7%) [355] <Love Forecast> Total admissions: 367,069 Total Gross: $2,474,838 January Total: $151,430,940 Cumulative gross Ode to my father: $88.18 million Big Hero 6: $8.19 million Gangnam Blues: $9.95 million Current presales (Midnight) 01. 35.8% (82,889) Big Hero 6 02. 15.5% (35,886) Ode to my Father 03. 14.2% (32,979) Gangnam Blues 04. 7.1% (16,496) Shoot me in the heart 05. 3.8% (8,709) Love Forecast 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yjs Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 President Park seeing Ode to my Father at the cinema probably had some kind of an impact? anyways, thought BH6 could take the weekend, but maybe not. it would see a decrease. hope I'm wrong tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edroger3 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Admissions Day Frozen Big Hero Dragon 2 1 84.387 71.826 2 165.861 94.691 90.222 3 169.536 99.446 124.043 4 429.047 274.096 307.039 5 434.903 286.875 303.178 6 156.831 67.273 145.746 7 186.830 75.594 158.291 8 161.000 76.078 167.810 9 173.123 67.980 162.961 T 1.877.131 1.126.420 1.531.116 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasmmi Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Big Hero's Gross will largely rely on whether it can stay relevent over the next 2 weeks. If so then the New Year boost could bump it from good to very good levels, if not it will just merely do pretty well like it has been so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelestialFairyIX Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I'll boldly increase my prediction for Big Hero 3 from $15 million to $20 million. Unless the movie drops drastically, I see it reaching $15 million in the upcoming weeks and if it has good holds, it should reach $20 million. I know this is quite a lot to ask of BH6 because daily numbers aren't looking that great but still, I believe in this film. If it disappoints, oh well, you can't expect an awe-inspiring performance from a movie that just got released after one of, if not the biggest movie of the decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvin Frohike Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Lol those WDAS films look like a complete flop in comparison to Frozen. On a per-capita basis in a first-world market that has ticket prices comparable to those in NA, they all are flops, while Frozen is a monstrous blockbuster. The population ratio is close to 7:1, so using simple arithmetic it would be as though in the DOM market Toy Story 3 grossed only a little more than Penguins of Madagascar, and every other WDAS or Pixar animated feature grossed less than $70M, while Frozen grossed about $530M. I'll boldly increase my prediction for Big Hero 3 from $15 million to $20 million. Unless the movie drops drastically, I see it reaching $15 million in the upcoming weeks and if it has good holds, it should reach $20 million. For a WDAS movie in South Korea, I would consider $20M a breakout, relatively speaking. Even many/most DWA animated features don't fare better, so it would be really good for an animated feature in South Korea in general (even $15M would be quite good). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hernan Gonzalez Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Why Frozen was such a success there and Tangled was a flop? Both movies are pretty similar and the targeted audience is the same. And Rapunzel is a well know character, at least here in Europe. Personally I prefer "I see the lights" over "Let it go". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasmmi Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Why Frozen was such a success there and Tangled was a flop? Both movies are pretty similar and the targeted audience is the same. And Rapunzel is a well know character, at least here in Europe. Personally I prefer "I see the lights" over "Let it go". For whatever reason, adults ( especially women) took to Frozen in a big way which escalated it from a kids film, where the absolute ceiling is KF2 numbers to the stratosphere where anything is possible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvin Frohike Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) It also has the added benefit of direct goodwill from Frozen, something all the other preceding animated films lacked. Would this be more true of South Korea than other markets? Historically, at least in NA WDAS animated features have tended not to benefit from their immediate predecessors being mega-blockbusters. For example, right from the beginning Pinocchio, considered a true classic today, lost money after Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs wowed everybody and literally bought Disney their current studio lot and headquarters. Also, Pocahontas didn't seem to benefit from The Lion King being such a huge hit, and if anything it seems that Frozen has overshadowed Big Hero 6 to some degree. Maybe given South Korea's general views on animated features, it can be supposed that Frozen might have changed some views on animation or at least WDAS specifically (like The Little Mermaid did in NA and much of the world), but I'm not sure about that, as even DWA's fortunes have varied greatly there. The Kung Fu Panda movies, particularly the sequel, might have been bigger than any of their other movies because of their subject matter, and this too might apply to Big Hero 6 in relation to WDAS' previous movies (with the exception of Frozen). Basically, maybe it is more appealing to Korean children than most other WDAS movies because it's about Asians and robots , but doesn't necessarily benefit from Frozen's still-exceptional status as a four-quadrant animated phenomenon. I'm just brainstorming here--if anything, you'd know better, of course. To which animated musicals are you referring to? Most that I'm aware of were released when the box office wasn't as large as it is now. With films like Tangled, the musical numbers was very poorly received hence the bad numbers. That's one example. Why Frozen was such a success there and Tangled was a flop? Both movies are pretty similar and the targeted audience is the same. Well, Tangled and Frozen seem rather different to me, and I'm American. Their styles of music and overall tone, just for a start, stand in stark contrast, in my opinion. Koreans just didn't see the appeal of Tangled (which I adore, personally, don't get me wrong)--at least not enough to overcome the widely-held perception in this market of animation being a children's medium (one that to be fair persists in the NA market to a significant degree, as well--just not as much anymore). Edited January 30, 2015 by Melvin Frohike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hernan Gonzalez Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 For whatever reason, adults ( especially women) took to Frozen in a big way which escalated it from a kids film, where the absolute ceiling is KF2 numbers to the stratosphere where anything is possible. Thanks! Now I understand. I asked because in Latin America and in many European countries (Including Germany, Spain and France) Tangled only did 10 to 20% less than Frozen, even though the singer of the Spanish version of "Let it Go" is very very famous among teenager girls. The Frozen fever came later here due to the huge success it had everywhere, specially in Japan, South Korea and DOM. All the Frozen related toys were sold out last Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yjs Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) Thanks! Now I understand. I asked because in Latin America and in many European countries (Including Germany, Spain and France) Tangled only did 10 to 20% less than Frozen, even though the singer of the Spanish version of "Let it Go" is very very famous among teenager girls. The Frozen fever came later here due to the huge success it had everywhere, specially in Japan, South Korea and DOM. All the Frozen related toys were sold out last Christmas. Tangled still saw like, a 900% increase from the Princess and the Frog.. lol 10 times more admissions. and then Frozen jumped like another 900% from Tangled, so I'm totally excited for the Disney's next princess movie cause obviously that'll magically attract 100 million admin in Korea somehow haha. Edited January 30, 2015 by yjs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsyu Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Honestly the music was the biggest reason Frozen succeeded in Korea. Even completely unknown films such as Begin again can become breakout hits if the music is well received. Let it go and Do you want to build a snowman became major hits on a level that I see the lights could only dream of. I guess it also helped that it was more similar thematically to the renaissance Disney films (which were big hits at the time) than all the post-renaissance films that came after. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAtGender Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 The music in Tangled wasn't received especially well anywhere. Even among fans, it's regarded as one of Menken's weaker efforts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsyu Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Friday Box Office (January 30) -Admissions (Total Adm) Daily% Gross (weekly%) [sC] <Title> 1. 86,277 (1,451,892) +14.1% $652K (-41.8%) [637] <Gangnam blues> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. 84,925 (12,384,096) +4.81% $599K (-8.91%) [506] <Ode to my father> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. 84,210 (1,212,584) +23.6% $605K (-15.7%) [602] <Big Hero 6> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. 42,952 (147,886) +5.91% $293K (--) [438] <Shoot me in the heart> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. 26,896 (1,712,332) +11.3% $193K (-56.3%) [368] <Love Forecast> Total admissions: 415,264 Total Gross: $2,972,969 January Total: $154,403,909 Cumulative gross Ode to my father: $88.78 million Big Hero 6: $8.80 million Gangnam Blues: $10.60 million Current presales (Midnight) 01. 41.0% (146,693) Big Hero 6 02. 16.5% (59,113) Ode to my Father 03. 12.2% (43,519) Gangnam Blues 04. 5.5% (19,587) Shoot me in the heart 05. 3.5% (12,441) Night at the Museum 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsyu Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) 10 Million admission films (Official Record) 01. 17,613,702 Roaring Currents 02. 13,624,328 Avatar 03. 13,019,740 The Host 04. 12,983,330 The Thieves 05. 12,811,206 Miracle in cell no.7 06. 12,384,096 Ode to my Father 07. 12,319,542 Masquerade 08. 12,302,831 King and the Clown 09. 11,746,135 Taegukgi: Brotherhood of War 10. 11,435,338 Haeundae 11. 11,375,944 The Attorney 12. 11,081,000 Silmido 13. 10,296,101 Frozen 14. 10,267,525 Interstellar Edited January 30, 2015 by Rsyu 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 BH6 SHOULD win this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsyu Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Looking at the presales it's a no-brainer but walk-ins are so weak I'm not at all confident it will win. I don't think I've ever seen such a large discrepancy between the presale figures and the actual box office numbers. A normal film with those types of presales and decent walk ins would be at 2M admissions by now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 ode to My father will be all time #2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
