Monsters University OS (Settling for fine 480M OS total)

[druv10]

BoxOffice ‏@BoxOffice24s

MONSTERS UNIVERSITY: $424.8M Overseas Total / $686.6M Global Total. #MonstersUniversity

 

27.2M week and most likely Chinese OW is short changed as well. 

Edited August 25, 2013 by druv10

[kayumanggi]

And that's not including markets like Australia where DM2 was released on the same day so it definitely had big competition. Legs were great for it especially with a chance at finishing around 480M+. 

 

UK too.

[druv10]

Disney's Monsters University leads its current releases with a $424.8 million overseas total and a $686 global cume. The weekend saw two successful new openings for the Pixar prequel. Monsters University stormed through China with a $13 million bow, the 4th largest opening for a Disney release in the market. Italy posted a first place performance with a $4.3 million debut. The last territory on the horizon for Monsters University is South Korea on September 12. Japan is the film's top market with a whopping $83.7 million total, nearly doubling second place United Kingdom's $42 million cume. The film has also performed well in Mexico ($38.2M), Argentina ($23.7M), Australia ($22.3M), and Russia ($20.9M).

http://www.boxoffice.com/latest-news/2013-08-25-global-the-minions-take-over-the-world-with-8058m-total

 

[Godzilla]

Summer 2013 is even worse if you look at the top 10: 20131. IM3 804M2. FF6 550M3. MU 480M4. DM2 480M5. MoS 370M6. WWZ 330M7. PR 300M8. Smurfs 280M9. Wolverine 270M10. STiD/TH3 240Mtop 10 combined: 41.04B 20121. TA 888M2. IA4 716M3. TDKR 636M4. Mad3 525M5. TASM 490M6. MIB3 445M7. Ted 330M8. Brave 301M9. Prometheus 276M10. SWATH/BS 240Mtop 10 combined: 48.47B 20111. HP8 960M2. POTC4 802M3. TF3 771M4. KFP2 500M5. Smurf 421M6. FF5 416M7. Cars2 368M8. TH2 332M9. Apes 305M10. Thor 268Mtop 10 combined: 51.43B 20101. TS3 648M2. Inception 533M3. Shrek4 513M4. Twilight3 398M5. IM2 311M6. DM 291M7. PoP 244M8. RH 216M9. T&tC2 193M10. TLA 187Mtop 10 combined: 35.34B 20091. IA3 690M2. HP6 632M3. UP 438M4. TF2 434M5. A&D 352M6. T4 246M7. NatM2 235M8. Wov 193M9. Hangover 190M10. G-F 173Mtop 10 combined: 35.83B Averaged top-10-combined for last 5 summers: 42.42B Clearly Summer 2013, despite being stronger than 2009 and 2010 due to 3D and expanding markets, is no match to that of 2011 and 2012. Actually Summer 2013 is 15% down from 2012, 20% down from 2011, and is weaker than the ave. of the last 5 Summers. In the animation and family movie category:the three titles in 2013 totaled 1.14B3 in 2012 totaled 1.542B3 in 2011 totaled 1.289B3 in 2010 totaled 1.452B3 in 2009 totaled 1.301B or  1.536B depending on if NatM2 counted or not Clearly to say MU faced heavy competition is so untrue. By no means, the competition in Summer 2013 is harsh. And actually MU had the most relaxing summer, by far, compared with the last 5. Out of the top 10, 9 titles are in 3D in 2013, 7 in 2012, 6 in 2011, 3 in 2010 and 3 in 2009. Meanwhile, in China, Summer 2013 doubled Summer 2010 .... So overally, Summer 2013 is not only a big direct step down from 2012 and 2011,  if you take out 3D, inflation (and expanding markets), it actually also draw less admissions than 2010 or 2009 from oversea. All in All, Summer 2013 is huge letdown. [Not only summer, Spring and Winter look weaker than previou years too]

Thor 2, Hunger Games 2 and The Hobbit 2 will help to lower the drop, but I agree 2013 is not doing well overseas. However domestically it's above of 2012. I think 2014 will be MASSIVE overseas, while a bit disappointing domestically.

[kayumanggi]

Thor 2, Hunger Games 2 and The Hobbit 2 will help to lower the drop, but I agree 2013 is not doing well overseas. However domestically it's above of 2012. I think 2014 will be MASSIVE overseas, while a bit disappointing domestically.

 

FROZEN could do well overseas too.

[A Marvel Fanboy]

Thor 2, Hunger Games 2 and The Hobbit 2 will help to lower the drop, but I agree 2013 is not doing well overseas. However domestically it's above of 2012. I think 2014 will be MASSIVE overseas, while a bit disappointing domestically.

Which movies will help power 2014 OS ? 

 

I think 2014 will be weak too ...

[Dilusha Bandara]

Which movies will help power 2014 OS ? 

 

I think 2014 will be weak too ...

If there is a 800+ OS grosser, it'd be TF4. But that won't happen.

[Godzilla]

Which movies will help power 2014 OS ? I think 2014 will be weak too ...

TF4 Rio 2ASM 2 Hunger Games 3 Hobbit 3 HTTYD 2 The Good Dinosaur Godzilla FF7 Minions X-Men: Days of Future Past Mutant Ninja Turtles Captain America 2 Dawn of the Planet of the Apes Interstellar Tomorrowland Night at the Museum 3 Maleficient Guardians of the GalaxyAll have a good shot at making bank overseas. And also there are 2 biblical movies coming out next year that might also have potentialn at a break-out. A Seth Mcfarlene film, Ted did 300M+ OS. Into the Woods might also become a surprise hit, with Meryl Streep who is a big name. Divergent and Fifty Shades of Grey might be franchise starters. Need for Speed also has a chance. I think 2014 looks very good. Mr Peabody & Sherman might pull of Croods style of hit. And the LEGO movie might become a hit. Edited August 25, 2013 by Godzilla

[Tower]

TF4Rio 2ASM 2Hunger Games 3Hobbit 3HTTYD 2The Good DinosaurGodzillaFF7MinionsX-Men: Days of Future PastMutant Ninja TurtlesCaptain America 2Dawn of the Planet of the ApesInterstellarTomorrowlandNight at the Museum 3MaleficientGuardians of the GalaxyAll have a good shot at making bank overseas.And also there are 2 biblical movies coming out next year that might also have potentialn at a break-out. A Seth Mcfarlene film, Ted did 300M+ OS. Into the Woods might also become a surprise hit, with Meryl Streep who is a big name. Divergent and Fifty Shades of Grey might be franchise starters. Need for Speed also has a chance. I think 2014 looks very good. Mr Peabody & Sherman might pull of Croods style of hit. And the LEGO movie might become a hit.

 

You just listed all the big films next year, and it didn't look any more impressive than 2013. we're  probably going to have to wait for 2015 for a huge record breaking year.

[Godzilla]

You just listed all the big films next year, and it didn't look any more impressive than 2013. we're  probably going to have to wait for 2015 for a huge record breaking year.

I think 8 of them have a great shot at 500M+ OS............

[tupek]

I think Ted and Mcfarlene are maligned. Ted was mixed received.

[Tower]

I think 8 of them have a great shot at 500M+ OS............

TF4, Hobbit 3, FF7 are the only obvious choices.

TASM is very likely.

Hunger games depends on how this years one does.

Rio and HTTYD maybe, but probably not (especially HTTYD).

Minions is a spin off and will have a hard time keeping DM2 numbers.

Interstellar might if it can be as good as Inception.

Maybe some other film breaks out (Godzilla, Apes, CA2, Dinosaur).

 

If I had to guess I would say 6-7, which might be what we get this year.

[Godzilla]

TF4, Hobbit 3, FF7 are the only obvious choices.TASM is very likely.Hunger games depends on how this years one does.Rio and HTTYD maybe, but probably not (especially HTTYD).Minions is a spin off and will have a hard time keeping DM2 numbers.Interstellar might if it can be as good as Inception.Maybe some other film breaks out (Godzilla, Apes, CA2, Dinosaur). If I had to guess I would say 6-7, which might be what we get this year.

500M+ OS films 2012 - 72011 - 42010 - 5 2009 - 4 Why do you think 2014 OS will be weak when you are predicting 6-7 will gross 500M+............. 2014 could easily have 8+ films grossing 500M+ OS.............

[Tower]

500M+ OS films2012 - 72011 - 42010 - 52009 - 4Why do you think 2014 OS will be weak when you are predicting 6-7 will gross 500M+.............2014 could easily have 8+ films grossing 500M+ OS.............

 

Because of inflation, if a year doesn't make at least the record then that isn't good. If 2014 makes less than 2012, then then that is underwhelming. If you are right and it makes more than 8, then it will indeed be a good year, I just don't see it happening.

[A Marvel Fanboy]

500M+ OS films

2012 - 7

2011 - 4

2010 - 5

2009 - 4

Why do you think 2014 OS will be weak when you are predicting 6-7 will gross 500M+.............

2014 could easily have 8+ films grossing 500M+ OS.............

Summer 2014 is weak.

 

 

Summer 2013 is even worse if you look at the top 10:

 

2013

1. IM3 804M

2. FF6 550M

3. MU 480M

4. DM2 480M

5. MoS 370M

6. WWZ 330M

7. PR 300M

8. Smurfs 280M

9. Wolverine 270M

10. STiD/TH3 240M

top 10 combined: 41.04B

 

2012

1. TA 888M

2. IA4 716M

3. TDKR 636M

4. Mad3 525M

5. TASM 490M

6. MIB3 445M

7. Ted 330M

8. Brave 301M

9. Prometheus 276M

10. SWATH/BS 240M

top 10 combined: 48.47B

 

2011

1. HP8 960M

2. POTC4 802M

3. TF3 771M

4. KFP2 500M

5. Smurf 421M

6. FF5 416M

7. Cars2 368M

8. TH2 332M

9. Apes 305M

10. Thor 268M

top 10 combined: 51.43B

 

2010

1. TS3 648M

2. Inception 533M

3. Shrek4 513M

4. Twilight3 398M

5. IM2 311M

6. DM 291M

7. PoP 244M

8. RH 216M

9. T&tC2 193M

10. TLA 187M

top 10 combined: 35.34B

 

2009

1. IA3 690M

2. HP6 632M

3. UP 438M

4. TF2 434M

5. A&D 352M

6. T4 246M

7. NatM2 235M

8. Wov 193M

9. Hangover 190M

10. G-F 173M

top 10 combined: 35.83B

 

Averaged top-10-combined for last 5 summers: 42.42B

 

 

Summer 2014 (May-Aug) I forecasted:

 

TF4 - 800M

FF7 - 600M 

TASM 2 - 600M 

HTTYD 2 - 540M 

Dawn of the Planet of the Apes - 440M 

DOFP - 350M

Godzilla - 350

Malificent - 300m

GotG - 270M

 

Top 10 combined: 4.25B, which is on par with 2010 and 2013, weak, and no match to 2011 or 2012.

[A Marvel Fanboy]

If you want to look at the whole year, @peludo summaried it pretty well:

 

 

I agree. I think we have already had this conversation. 4 billion movies (one of them over 1.5 and other over 1.1). And then 2 +800, 2 +700 and 3 +600 is a very impressive result (the best ever).

 

However I see 2012 as a rarity.  Let's look at the evolution of top 10 since 2001 (the year I think WW numbers becomes really important with HP vs LOTR battle). I will give the top 10 cume:

 

2001: 5.273 billion $

2002: 5.657

2003: 5.879

2004: 6.031

2005: 5.860

2006: 5.748

2007: 6.953

2008: 6.372

2009: 9.117

2010: 7.577

2011: 7.918

2012: 9.238

2013: about 8.05 billion (I have replaced the current last 3 and included Thor (850), CF (850) and Hobbit 2 (1.1 billion), and added some more to current grosses)

2014: 8.250 (according the list I post above)

 

There have been some years like 2007 (Enormous accumulation of big franchises like POTC, HP, Spider-man, Transformers and Shrek), 2009 (Avatar) and 2012 (Avengers explosion, Batman final and Skyfall surprise) that are not so usual. And then we had the jump in 2010 from 2008 because of expanding markets explosion, but even with that I can see a certain pattern of growing.

 

I think you are a disappointed since you expected more (and I can share that feeling), but we have to take into account some other factors: European markets are quite depressing right now and recent China's "boycott" to Hollywood releases as you well know. Having into account these details, I think evolution for 2013 and 2014 projections are quite normal. Anyways, I think we can expect another "not usual" year in 2015.

 

Though everyone has different predictions, however all considered, the top 10 combined in 2014 wont match that of 2012, may even fall short of 2011 if one or two titles underperforms. After two/three years inflations, expanding markets and more 3D titles ?? That's not excellent or strong.

 

More, 2012 had 4 1B+, 2013 only 2, 2014 likely only 2 too, not cool.

[Tower]

Summer 2014 is weak.

 

 

 

 

Summer 2014 (May-Aug) I forecasted:

 

TF4 - 800M

FF7 - 600M 

TASM 2 - 600M 

HTTYD 2 - 540M 

Dawn of the Planet of the Apes - 440M 

DOFP - 350M

Godzilla - 350

Malificent - 300m

GotG - 270M

 

Top 10 combined: 4.25B, which is on par with 2010 and 2013, weak, and no match to 2011 or 2012.

 

I agree with your general sentiment, but you must really not like Pixar, because I don't think TGD will make less than Brave.

[A Marvel Fanboy]

I agree with your general sentiment, but you must really not like Pixar, because I don't think TGD will make less than Brave.

I forgot about TGD.

[Neo]

What about Exodus and Interstellar for 500M OS?

[zackzack]

I don't know how DRAGON2, GODZILLA & GOOD DINO would play nicely with each other in this upcoming marketplace.  All these sound similar to each other with DRAGON2 likely to take the crown for

the Battle of Giant Lizards 2014.

 

GOOD DINO has staggered release with UK in July,

some European countries in August & Germany in October (!). As far as OS 

is concerned Pixar may be smart to stay away from Godzilla's rampages.

 

June is great for HTTYD2: it has adult-scifi EDGE OF TOMORROW and some rom-coms. 

DRAGON2 would have a pair of nice competition-free weekends and very nice weekday

grosses before TF4 comes in on June 27th

Edited August 26, 2013 by zackzack