grey ghost Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Craig is the new boss in town....He has zero star power when he's not playing Bond. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I'm waiting for The Man with Iron Fist to start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 He has zero star power when he's not playing Bond.Who has star power these days? None. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 This. Denzel is consistent, Smith is kinda more all over the place.Washington playing HANCOCK wouldn't work at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Washington playing HANCOCK wouldn't work at all.That's why Washington is Washington and Smith is Smith. You can't just interchange lead actors into any role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Washington playing HANCOCK wouldn't work at all.How is this even a legitimate argument? Smith in Flight wouldn't work at all either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Will Smith only does massive tentpoles. Put Denzel in one of them and after that we talk.Well maybe studios don't put him in "massive" tentpoles because it wouldn't work? Smith has had THIRTEEN 100 M films from action films and a romcom to sci-fi movies and dramas. Washington? FOUR. Not one even made more than 131 M. I'm not bashing, just laying out facts because I think Washington is a great actor. Looking forward to his two movies: 2 GUNS and THE EQUALIZER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 How is this even a legitimate argument? Smith in Flight wouldn't work at all either.Why? Smith can do dramas. Has Washington done a comic book role? NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Because he's not a comic book actor. What does it matter that he doesn't do those films? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Why? Smith can do dramas. Has Washington done a comic book role? NO.Smith, Dramas? He's not very good in Dramas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) Someone said he was consistent. True. Only consistent to what he does, drama. And that's not a bad thing. But Smith doing different genres and producing big numbers is what true draw and consistency means. Edited November 4, 2012 by kayumanggi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Smith, Dramas? He's not very good in Dramas.Yeah that is why he was nominated for Best Actor in ALI and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPYNESS. Not very good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Someone said he was consistent. True. Only consistent to what he does, drama. And that's not a bad thing. But Smith doing different genres and producing big numbers is what true draw and consistency means.Except he's neither truly consistent or a draw. No one is a box office draw in the traditional sense like Liz Taylor would've been or the other stars of the Golden Age. And he's far from consistent, he's a very good actor, but not consistent. The only person that works in Hollywood that I can say has never given a bad performance is Streep, but she's a legend and Smith despite what he's done is just Smith and doesn't hold a candle up to Streep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Yeah that is why he was nominated for Best Actor in ALI and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPYNESS. Not very good.You evidently have no idea how the Oscars work. People get nominated for shit all the fucking time. There's really been no set of acting nominees that don't have at least one shit performance in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Yeah that is why he was nominated for Best Actor in ALI and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPYNESS. Not very good.yeah he is pretty good in the dramatic aspects of his characters too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 You evidently have no idea how the Oscars work. People get nominated for shit all the fucking time. There's really been no set of acting nominees that don't have at least one shit performance in a long time.so all the people who praised his performances in those movies were all lying? OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) Except he's neither truly consistent or a draw. No one is a box office draw in the traditional sense like Liz Taylor would've been or the other stars of the Golden Age. And he's far from consistent, he's a very good actor, but not consistent.The only person that works in Hollywood that I can say has never given a bad performance is Streep, but she's a legend and Smith despite what he's done is just Smith and doesn't hold a candle up to Streep.Lol, now we are comparing him to Streep?We are talking about box office here. Smith has had THIRTEEN 100 M films, NINE of those are above 160 M. He also has TEN 300 M films worldwide, five of which made more than 585 M. Definitely not a draw. lol Edited November 4, 2012 by kayumanggi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 so all the people who praised his performances in those movies were all lying? OKPersonally, I didn't like, actually more accurately I hated both of those roles. What I mean is that you can't show anyone an Oscar list, and not have someone say, "What? How is that shit nominated?" It'll be different turds for each person but there almost always will be one. It's all highly subjective of course, obviously though, I mean it's the Oscars duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 You evidently have no idea how the Oscars work. People get nominated for shit all the fucking time. There's really been no set of acting nominees that don't have at least one shit performance in a long time. And you do. Ha ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) We are talking about box office here. Smith has had THIRTEEN 100 M films, NINE of those are above 160 M. He also has TEN 300 M films worldwide, five of which made more than 585 M. Definitely not a draw. lolAnd how many of them were guaranteed to be BO hits, regardless of his involvement? Movies like Independence Day would've been big grosses regardless. A draw is someone who can open a film of any genre, quality, and scope to a respectable, and relatively high (for what type of film it is). Those stars don't happen anymore, don't pretend Smith is one of them.And you do. Ha ha!I have a decent grasp, I know what I'm saying when I'm talking about votes, and numbers when it comes to the Oscars. Edited November 4, 2012 by riczhang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
