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China Box Office: General Discussion Thread

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48 minutes ago, Lihongkim said:

Crazy Nian did not move out, so Da Hai will take summer profile. 

I'm afraid that it will be a biggest hit during CNY.

 

Is there a trailer for crazy nian?

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3 hours ago, Lihongkim said:

Crazy Nian did not move out, so Da Hai will take summer profile. 

I'm afraid that it will be a biggest hit during CNY.

Production wise, Door Gods and Da Hai (Big Fish & Chinese Flowering Crabapple)are much more expensive than Crazy Nian, aka Mr. Nian.

 

1.1- ---- Little Door Gods

1.16 ---- Boonie Bears 3 

1.29 ---- KFP3 

2.8 ----- Mr. Nian

 

It's a very crowded schedul so some maybe every of them wont achieve the full potential.

 

But with Da Hai, Mermaid and more, 2016 looks to be the breakout year for animations and family movies. Monsters Hunt and TMK in 2015 should be just the beginning.

 

Many industry people claim the next five years to be the age of Chinese homegrown sci-fi films (dozens are already in development).

 

Homegrown genre films in China:

Wuxia ---- an iconic but pretty much dead genre, like Western in Hollywood

Comedy ----- currently the best developed genre (Ning Hao- Xu Zheng- Huang Bo, Wang Baoqiang-Chen Sicheng, Da Peng-YiShow Joy (Unimedia), Shen Teng-Yan Fei (Happy Mahua Pictures), Deng Chao-Yu Baimei, and of course legends like Stephen Chou, Wang Jing, Feng Xiaogang-Ge You, are the top talents)

Romance ---- everywhere but no classic movie has been produced

Youth/coming of age ----- no decent movie has been made yet the best days are half gone

Action thriller, crime drama/thriller ----- steadily uprising 

Animation/family ---- just is starting to boom

Sci-fi/fantasy ----- to boom in a few years 

Horror ----  SARFT tells you to forget about it

costumed epic and war pics will never be too popular I think

 

But overall things are getting better each day.

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20 hours ago, Ash said:

I know it's a long time. Can BvS  have a day and date release date here?

little chance but it shouldnt be delayed for too long, maybe one or two weeks

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6 hours ago, firedeep said:

To be fair, most movies are silly ...

Yeah still increases, just not exploding.

Is it possible that the growth in theater expansion is more in 2nd/3rd tier cities where local movies would be thriving. Seems like a number of HLWD movies are not increasing in step with the BO growth

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1 hour ago, firedeep said:

Many industry people claim the next five years to be the age of Chinese homegrown sci-fi films (dozens are already in development).

 

Sci-fi/fantasy ----- to boom in a few years 

 

But overall things are getting better each day.

People can forget who make it first, but they will remember who make it best. China has a chance.

 

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Monday  estimates
Our Times: 18M/128M
Transporter Refueled:10.6M/80.5M

Mockingjay - Part 2:9.4M/111M
Spectre: 8.4M/502M
 

 

Excellent hold for Top 2, not so much for MJ2 and SPECTRE.

Transporter Refueled may end up bigger than MJ2, so hilarious.

 

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52 minutes ago, No Prisoners said:

Is it possible that the growth in theater expansion is more in 2nd/3rd tier cities where local movies would be thriving. Seems like a number of HLWD movies are not increasing in step with the BO growth

Yes, that should be one of the reasons. In smaller cities, local contents are more rooted. The relative decline of Hollywood's power in China in the past two years is a mixed result of many factors: local contents getting better and more attention, moviegoing booming in smaller cities, etc 

 

But it is also a fact that HLW films like Spectre are nothing like F7 or MI4 in style. The latter (which is more emotional/comedic filled with overthetop stunts/actions/explosions) are more perfered by Chinese audience but HLW currently is not producing enough of those.

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35 minutes ago, Lihongkim said:

People can forget who make it first, but they will remember who make it best. China has a chance.

 

The Three Body Problem movie will be a crap ... 

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Our Times with just a 7% drop from Friday. Tremendous hold

TP4 Dom: $16m.  OS: $17m. China looking to beat both(not combined) that'll be a first, needs 108m yuan

TM presales up to 6m MN and 10m OD so far

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31 minutes ago, firedeep said:

Yes, that should be one of the reasons. In smaller cities, local contents are more rooted. The relative decline of Hollywood's power in China in the past two years is a mixed result of many factors: local contents getting better and more attention, moviegoing booming in smaller cities, etc 

 

But it is also a fact that HLW films like Spectre are nothing like F7 or MI4 in style. The latter (which is more emotional/comedic filled with overthetop stunts/actions/explosions) are more perfered by Chinese audience but HLW currently is not producing enough of those.

 

why did AOU not have good legs? I thought it filled in everything you mentioned?

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31 minutes ago, firedeep said:

The Three Body Problem movie will be a crap ... 

This is just a beginning. we need times. Hollywood can't stay on top forever. 

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2 hours ago, The Good Olive said:

Monday  estimates
Our Times: 18M/128M
Transporter Refueled:10.6M/80.5M

Mockingjay - Part 2:9.4M/111M
Spectre: 8.4M/502M
 

 

Excellent hold for Top 2, not so much for MJ2 and SPECTRE.

Transporter Refueled may end up bigger than MJ2, so hilarious.

 

Knowing what you guys know about the Chinese market, what will MJ2 and Spectre likely end up at? Martian will probably kill these two by the end of this week?

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31 minutes ago, vignette123 said:

Knowing what you guys know about the Chinese market, what will MJ2 and Spectre likely end up at? Martian will probably kill these two by the end of this week?

560M-570M ($90M) max for Spectre and 180M ($28M) max for MJ2

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12 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

 

why did AOU not have good legs? I thought it filled in everything you mentioned?

Maybe because AOU didnt excit people as much as what they expected ? it was like a replay of the first one, nothing refreshing.:ph34r:(IMO Ultron was also too weak, no real threat can be felt)

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19 hours ago, firedeep said:

The Three Body Problem movie will be a crap ... 

The story is critically acclaimed but this movie is backed by a new production company and their budget is relatively modest so I don't know if they can make a quality film with that.

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1 hour ago, Peachy said:

The story is critically acclaimed but this movie is backed by a new production company and their budget is relatively modest so I don't know if they can make a quality film with that.

No, they cant.

 

Something big and high concept like Three Body Problem simply is out of the capbility of a team like that (with zero film production experience). Even WB might not be able to make a good movie out of a great IP (Three Body Problem), let alone ...

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TM presales up to 7.2 MN 16.7 OD.

It needs to get over 30m by midnight to have a shot at 100m OD. 

 

Showtime

TM 40%

Our time drops from 21% to 18%

 The rest lose 40-45%

TP4 12%

HG4 11%

JB24 8%

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