China Box Office Thread | Deadpool & Wolverine- July 26

[druv10]

7 minutes ago, jiangsen said:

Usually if a film still has some gas left in the tank after 30 days, they can opt for an extension. Extensions through the film bureau are expensive though and Disney may have already lost its bargaining power once Zootopia was granted an extension earlier in the year.

FB is on it's last legs while Zootopia made a good chunk after the extension. FB is at .5% shows, it's not going to add any money. This extension is pointless.

[terrestrial]

17 minutes ago, druv10 said:

FB is on it's last legs while Zootopia made a good chunk after the extension. FB is at .5% shows, it's not going to add any money. This extension is pointless.

for a fan every additional yuan / dollar / euro / rubel / pound... is not pointless.

Shall I remember you the next time one of your (our) favourite films is still earning (often the same as mine, as you might be aware of  )

[Polaroids]

TGW Reviews:

 

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"..capably directed but generic fantasy spectacle."

- Variety

 

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It's hardly a surprise that William chooses to stay even after Tovar — egged on by Ballard (Dafoe), who has been in detention at the camp for 25 years, teaching English to Lin and strategist Wang (Lau) in the process — plots to steal the treasure and leave. And while the "Westerners" are regularly shown up by the physically powerful and invariably principled Chinese warriors, it's hardly a surprise who eventually gets to save the day for China and all mankind.

 

There's also a message, which Lin spells out when she lectures William about the importance of trust. The banality of this moral is representative of the weightlessness of nearly every aspect of the film: The characters are ciphers, the narrative is dull and even the sights and sounds become numbingly bombastic after a while. Even Damon seems to be struggling with his dialogue, which is anachronistically peppered with modern vocabulary (one character gets to say "bitch"), humor (a handful of "I heard that!" jokes), and bromantic quips between William and Tovar.

 

And that's not to mention the sheer lack of logic in the film: Why do the Taoties only attack human beings every 60 years? Why does the army host a "crane corps," involving female soldiers bungee-jumping down the wall to lance the beasts, when there are already cannons and other artillery? And why is everybody rolling their r's when they speak?

 

Then again, Zhang might have delivered exactly what was asked of him — a no-nonsense visual spectacle that stops at nothing in its portrayal of an imaginary, mysterious ancient culture. Or perhaps The Great Wall is simply a safety-first exercise for Zhang, Damon and their financiers in consolidating their respective first moves outside their usual terrain; it may be a landmark film for the Chinese and U.S. film industries, but it's hardly a creative breakthrough for anyone involved.

- THR

 

Pretty mixed to negative reviews so far. Do we still think this is gonna make money overseas?

[Olive]

Thursday actuals:

TGW - 48.06M/48.35M

Hacksaw - 13.25M/184.9m

[eXtacy]

From a quick glance Great Wall seems like its on target for 100-110m today

 

 

Edited December 16, 2016 by eXtacy

[Polaroids]

Sources who don't want to be named said TGW's budget actually went up to $150 million. How much would it need to make to be considered a success? Twice the budget? Thrice?

[Olive]

1 hour ago, Polaroids said:

Sources who don't want to be named said TGW's budget actually went up to $150 million. How much would it need to make to be considered a success? Twice the budget? Thrice?

In China, about 38% of theater gross will go back to distributor and online rights may sale more than 100M yuan.

[TimmyRiggins]

I read 45 % of ticket sales for TGW, not 38.

[Olive]

10 minutes ago, TimmyRiggins said:

I read 45 % of ticket sales for TGW, not 38.

33-35% is  for local movies, imported movie only 25%.

No way can any movie get over 40%.

https://www.zhihu.com/question/20073704

8.5% =tax

55-57% (1-8.5%)--> theaters

other cost 3-5%

Production company only gets 33-36% of all theater gross.

 

 

[Polaroids]

It's at 5.3 on Douban. In comparison HR has 8.8 and The Wasted Times has 7.5.

[fmpro]

5 hours ago, eXtacy said:

From a quick glance Great Wall seems like its on target for 100-110m today

 

 

 

More like 120 mill+

[eXtacy]

17 minutes ago, fmpro said:

 

More like 120 mill+

 

Must of of done monster business at night time because it wasnt that high at 4pm

[Olive]

Friday estimates
The Great Wall ￥120M/168M

The Wasted Times ￥22.3M
Hacksaw Ridge ￥10.7M/196M
Your Name ￥3.45M /525M  

Suddenly Seventeen ￥2M/113.5M  
Moana ￥0.68M /183M 
 

BTW, Madame Bovary has been fudge to 446M already!(maybe close to 100M are fake, poor Ip Man 3)

[keysersoze123]

Quite good for TGW. Should make 450m by sunday. With christmas/NY ahead I am assuming it should at least gross 800m.

[Polaroids]

Rooting for Railroad Tigers to win the holiday season

[POTUS 2020]

TGW PS barely up from yesterday. The multi should be a little bigger though. Small bump expected, 20% or less

YN falling off harder than FB did in its third weekend and might miss $80M.

 

	DS					FB					Yn
Day	Yn	Daily % +/-	Last Week	Tot	$Tot	Yn	Daily % +/-	Last Week	Tot	$Tot	Yn	Daily % +/-	Last Week	Tot	$Tot
Fri	81			86	13	75			77	11	76			78	11
Sat	120	47.4%		206	30	114	52.9%		192	28	120	58.0%		199	29
Sun	94	-21.3%		300	44	92	-19.4%		284	41	88	-27.3%		286	42
Mon	34	-64.0%		334	49	33	-64.6%		316	46	31	-64.2%		318	46
Tues	31	-9.4%		365	54	29	-10.1%		346	50	27	-14.4%		344	50
Wed	27	-11.0%		392	57	25	-13.7%		371	54	23	-14.2%		367	53
Thur	23	-16.1%		415	61	23	-9.1%		394	57	18	-21.7%		385	56
Fri	38	65.2%	-53.3%	453	66	23	0.0%	-69.2%	417	60	24	34.4%	-68.2%	410	59
Sat	66	73.7%	-45.0%	519	76	47	105.7%	-58.6%	464	67	48	100.0%	-59.8%	458	66
Sun	50	-24.2%	-47.0%	569	83	36	-23.7%	-60.8%	500	73	34	-29.8%	-61.1%	492	71
Mon	16.0	-75.8%	-52.9%	585	86	10.2	-71.7%	-68.7%	510	74	9.3	-72.6%	-70.3%	501	73
Tue	14.5	-9.4%	-52.9%	600	88	9.3	-8.8%	-68.3%	520	75	7.7	-17.2%	-71.3%	509	74
Wed	13.7	-5.5%	-50.0%	613	90	8.1	-12.9%	-68.0%	528	77	6.8	-11.7%	-70.4%	516	75
Thu	12.5	-8.8%	-45.7%	626	92	5.8	-28.4%	-74.8%	534	77	5.2	-24.3%	-71.4%	521	76
Fri	14.8	18.4%	-61.1%	641	94	6.4	10.3%	-72.2%	540	78	3.4	-35.0%	-86.2%	524	76
Sat	34.1	130.4%	-48.3%	675	99	17.0	165.6%	-64.1%	557	81
Sun	27.5	-19.4%	-45.0%	702	103	12.3	-27.6%	-65.9%	569	83
Mon	8.7	-68.4%	-45.6%	711	104	3.1	-74.8%	-69.6%	572	83
Tue	9.2	5.7%	-36.6%	720	106	2.8	-9.7%	-69.9%	575	83
Wed	7.9	-14.1%	-42.3%	728	107	2.6	-7.1%	-67.9%	578	84
Thu	7.5	-5.1%	-40.0%	736	108	1.6	-38.5%	-72.4%	579	84
				751	110.1		proj	total	585	84.9		proj	total	550	79.8
				XR	6.82				XR	6.89				XR	6.89

 

 

Edited December 16, 2016 by POTUS

[Polaroids]

Interesting analysis by CFI -

 

"And while Zhang’s box office clout may have faded somewhat in recent years — 2014’s Coming Home grossed RMB 291 million ($46 million) in China and just $377,000 in North America — producers have fleshed out The Great Wall cast with not only a major international box office draw in Matt Damon, but also several Chinese “little fresh meats,” young male actors whose devoted followers count into the tens of millions.

 

In an age where mobile ticketing and social media are king and young moviegoers drive box office numbers, Baidu’s online ticketing portal Nuomi has established a new feature ranking The Great Wall performers by how many tickets their self-professed fans have purchased. While far from a scientific cross-section of Chinese moviegoers, followers of Lu Han (Time Raiders, Disney’s Chinese ambassador for Star Wars) and Wang Junkai of the boyband TFBOYS have snapped up more than half of the total 150,000 tickets sold for The Great Wall on Nuomi. These two “fresh meats” far surpass the box office draw of Andy Lau, Matt Damon, and Zhang Yimou, according to the data.

These numbers may bode well for a strong opening weekend boosted by hordes of devout fans, but criticism from advanced screenings points to the inclusion of all these young, untested performers as a major reason The Great Wall will have little to no staying power on Chinese screens.

Moviegoers from Thursday’s advanced screenings have already loudly mocked the film online — Douban currently sits at an awful 5.8/10 — targeting their vitriol at the “fresh meats” and their complete lack of onscreen presence. 

Most netizen hatred and critical consensus seems to be aimed squarely at young Jing Tian (景甜), a 28-year-old actress whose biggest credit to date was the critically panned From Vegas to Macau 3. Jing reportedly commands more onscreen time than her Chinese counterparts combined but is unable to hold her own against Damon. Adding fuel to the fire, Jing is set to star in two future Legendary productions — Kong: Skull Island and Pacific Rim: Uprising — giving netizens plenty of fodder to speculate on Jing’s powerful connections.

If word of mouth continues to plunge throughout the weekend, The Great Wall could very well be in for a rough ride. Right now, though, we still predict a solid opening weekend close to RMB 400 million ($58 million) bolstered by fans.

In subsequent weekends, Chinese moviegoers will shun The Great Wall and it will struggle to pass RMB 1 billion ($148 million). No matter how Legendary or its new owner Wanda frame it, for all its pre-release hype The Great Wall will be a major disappointment both critically and commercially and will be another huge blow to US-China co-productions."

 

source

[terrestrial]

China Box Office ‏@ChinaBoxOffice

THE GREAT WALL earned est. ¥120M ($17.2M) on Friday. China's 2-day total is ¥168M ($24.1M). @thegreatwall

[Polaroids]

Box Office: Matt Damon's 'The Great Wall' Snags Not-So-Great $24.1M China Debut - Forbes

[Lihongkim]

Recent bad WOM films

Time Raiders 4.8 on douban

Box office : 478M OW [Thur 36M (preview), Fri 161M, Sat 154M, Sun 125M]

                 365M (2nd week)

                 100M (3rd week)

                 ..........

      Total : 1004M 

 

Skiptrace 5.6 on douban

Box office : 410M (4days OW) 

                 324M  (2nd week)

                 113M  (3rd week) 

                 ........

        Total : 889M

 

TGW 5.3 on douban