vc2002 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Nah, they did just fine before when China wasn't such a big market. They don't need it. Why TDKR got released here if WB doesnt need the China release? Anyway, it's not about needing it or not. It's about how much this market can produce. This is business and if the output is becoming big enough, studios won't say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Why TDKR got released here if WB doesnt need the China release?For the same reason they released it in tiny markets that barely add anything to the gross. WB is greedy just like any corporation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vc2002 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 No worship. Honest assessment of the situation. I don't think the Chinese government's feelings about the TDK script were taken into consideration at all, and they shouldn't have been. That would just be stupid.Calling others who compromise for making more money sellouts is a worship. Because that's what everyone does.Also, as I explained, TDK had a very tricky situation. You really had to cut out all HK-related scenes. I dont think even a "sellout" would do that because that would literrally fuck up the whole story. On the other hand, if the problem was just one or two dialogue and changing them would solve it, I bet even a "super cool guy" like Nolan would say yes as it really wouldn't do harm to the plot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 That's more like you setting yourself up for disappointment. It's like predicting TDKR matching TA numbers in the US, and then getting pissed that it didnt even come near it.Nah. TA is nothing special before release in May in China. Not many cared about it.You could make a poll in Chinese forums and see how many root for TDKR in China over TA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPink Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Any #'s for Tuesday, firedeep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vc2002 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 For the same reason they released it in tiny markets that barely add anything to the gross. WB is greedy just like any corporation.That's exactly my point. If WB greedily needs even tiny contributions, how the hell could they say no when the contribution is getting bigger every minute? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Let me just put it this way.... in 2005-2006, when the plot for TDK was being developed, China wasn't a big enough market to impact any film-making decisions. Till that time only one Hollywood film had made more than $15m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Calling others who compromise for making more money sellouts is a worship. Because that's what everyone does. That isn't what I said and you know it. I was talking about a director changing his film's story to cowtow to a totalitarian government's fake sensitivity (the same government that kills its own people and censors the hell out of them). China didn't ban the film. WB chose not to release it because they were afraid it would get banned. And the second a filmmaker starts cowtowing to a totalitarian government for the purposes of making more money, that's the second I call him a sellout. Nolan made the film he wanted to make and I'm glad he didn't give a shit about the Chinese government's ridiculous sensitivity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Resident evil 5 opens on Sept.14? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 Wednesday looks pretty bad for both. Bid drop from Tue. My early breakdown was overdone by much ...So disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Any #'s for Tuesday, firedeep?+1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 Resident evil 5 opens on Sept.14?Yes, they say. They are killing Hollywood movies in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Wednesday looks pretty bad for both. Bid drop from Tue. My early breakdown was overdone by much ...So disappointed.Lets hope the weekend will recover.. I need my 50 mill for TASM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 Any #'s for Tuesday, firedeep?Still no reliable estimates.+1But probably under my breakdown for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 Lets hope the weekend will recover.. I need my 50 mill for TASM50M is still a done deal. Tough it is too less.50M belongs to B-list movie like John Carter/RE5/TE2, not TASM/TDKR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toymaker Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 China has recently made its co-production regulation stronger. If a movie is to gain co-production status, and get a Chinese release date without doubt, then it has to be seen to have solid contributions from China, and not some token gesture of a Chinese actress in a supporting role. It has to have siginificant amount of the film filmed in China, have Chinese stars headlining or have significant investment from Chinese production companies.This is a great way for more US movies to get released in China without having to go through the screening process and possibly get refused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Battleship without 3D made close to 50M... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Tues #sTASM 31.6M yuan ($4.97M)TDKR 27.6M yuan ($4.35M) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 So disappointing.Will be lucky to do 200M yuan #31m OW at this point.Wedsday looks at low 20M yuan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 China has recently made its co-production regulation stronger. If a movie is to gain co-production status, and get a Chinese release date without doubt, then it has to be seen to have solid contributions from China, and not some token gesture of a Chinese actress in a supporting role. It has to have siginificant amount of the film filmed in China, have Chinese stars headlining or have significant investment from Chinese production companies.This is a great way for more US movies to get released in China without having to go through the screening process and possibly get refused.IM3 are one.. Cant wait to see how that goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...