China Box Office Thread | Deadpool & Wolverine- July 26

[Gavin Feng]

39 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

We didn't really see change in trend for GvK post HBO Max release. SOUL though at small level trended well as well.

 

Though one must wonder if that $60M it did could have been $100M without Disney+ or not.

 

How much do you think piracy impacts. Re-releases do really well in China, ffs Avatar did $50M (right) just this year. So could it be that piracy don't impact much.

 

Avatar re-release performance was seen as a disappointment in some ways. Many believe it could've try ¥1,000M if the release plan was not so hasty. Soul got similar opinions. 

 

It's hard to establish a certain standard to judge the impact of piracy. But the general consciousness is cost-effectiveness. The consumption capacity of local people is still high, but they're not spending much money on movies like usual, why? Because audience don't think it's worth. Movies in recent two years seldom let audience see the magic of cinema or theme park stuffs while entertainment is becoming more various. Young people would rather spend hundred yuan on board and card games than buy a ticket and set in a house for two hours by just 20~30 yuan. Is the movie worth seeing in theaters, even if we can see it online for free. For movies like GvK, the answer is yes. For many, many others, audience don't even want to play it on streaming or download the piracies. It make the whole market be more unpredictable. Six months ago, many in industry believe Chinese Doctors is a $300M-plus level title. Currently, few people believe the number would be over $200M, with some pessimistic opinions think under ¥1,000M. 

Edited July 5, 2021 by Gavin Feng

[Gavin Feng]

BW has been rated by 417 users on Douban film site since oversea debuts. The number is expected to grow dramatically as it land on Disney+.

[charlie Jatinder]

Any chance of July release @Gavin Feng. I see Chinese Doctors seems small unless WOM is great. 

[Claudio]

1 hour ago, Gavin Feng said:

BW has been rated by 417 users on Douban film site since oversea debuts. The number is expected to grow dramatically as it land on Disney+.

How can the rating number will grow dramatically when Disney+ isn't even available in China right now? Also, where are that 427 ratings come from? Is it from people who viewed it through piracy or what?

[charlie Jatinder]

25 minutes ago, Claudio said:

How can the rating number will grow dramatically when Disney+ isn't even available in China right now?

[Gavin Feng]

32 minutes ago, Claudio said:

How can the rating number will grow dramatically when Disney+ isn't even available in China right now? Also, where are that 427 ratings come from? Is it from people who viewed it through piracy or what?

Mulan:

 

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Disney’s Mulan hit with bad reviews in China as pirated copies circulate online ahead of theatrical release

 

[TigerPaw]

Trending on Weibo at number 8, HD with Chinese subtitles up on various sites and wangpan.

search Weibo and you see screenshots from people’s TV - pirated copy.

 

@Gavin Feng @charlie Jatinder

it is Mulan all over again. It’s a curse, two (of the) most view trailers on Weibo for Hollywood films in 2019; both killed by piracy. 

[Claudio]

Ah,  I see. Thanks for clearing some things up. @Gavin Feng. I thought they can find some pirated disney+ app out there with all free when you mentioned 'released on Disney+' .Turns out it's just a common one movie piracy 😂.

[john2000]

while its not an apples to apples comparison, for many reason ( years between them , way way more piracy) i think its important to note, that antman and the wasp released  on aug 24 with 66mill ow and 125 finish and spiderman homecoming with a release date in sept 7 ow 70 and finish 116 so lets see

Edited July 9, 2021 by john2000

[lorddemaxus]

19 minutes ago, john2000 said:

while its not an apples to apples comparison, for many reason ( years between them , way way more piracy) i think its important to note, that antman and the wasp released  on aug 24 with 66mill ow and 125 finish and spiderman homecoming with a release date in sept 7 ow 70 and finish 116 so lets see

Not really important to note. Neither of them released on Disney+ before their Chinese release.

[john2000]

1 minute ago, lorddemaxus said:

Not really important to note. Neither of them released on Disney+ before their Chinese release.

yes,however i personally dont think that we should total exlude that 

[charlie Jatinder]

You could have named Venom, the one to breakout despite delayed release.

But as @lorddemaxus said they were released before Blu Ray release.

 

BW case will be more like Once Upon a Deadpool which iirc had $8m od and $20m weekend closing around $35m.

 

BW will be a bit better than that tho.

[john2000]

Just now, charlie Jatinder said:

You could have named Venom, the one to breakout despite delayed release.

But as @lorddemaxus said they were released before Blu Ray release.

 

BW case will be more like Once Upon a Deadpool which iirc had $8m od and $20m weekend closing around $35m.

 

BW will be a bit better than that tho.

we shall see

[Gavin Feng]

rated by 3k users on douban till Sat noon. Mulan got 6k at the same point.

[charlie Jatinder]

17 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said:

rated by 3k users on douban till Sat noon. Mulan got 6k at the same point.

Now wonder if that's a great sign people not going for piracy or its awful sign showing lower buzz for MCU movie. 

 

[TigerPaw]

3 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Now wonder if that's a great sign people not going for piracy or its awful sign showing lower buzz for MCU movie. 

 

Doesn't help that some people are saying that 16gb is too large for the 4k version? And some are still find subs to download along with the movie.. lol.

[Gavin Feng]

Starts with 7.2/10 on Douban film site.

 

Better than Hulk, Thor 1, First Avengers, Black Panther, Captain Marvel.

[TigerPaw]

43 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said:

Starts with 7.2/10 on Douban film site.

 

Better than Hulk, Thor 1, First Avengers, Black Panther, Captain Marvel.

12k votes now.

How many did Mulan have at this point of time?
not really apples-to-apples because I also note Mulan does have a lot of spam votes by haters and fans of competitors of Liu Yifei; plus I also know a lot of HK boycotters went to douban to purposely rate it low at that time..

 

[Gavin Feng]

15 minutes ago, TigerPaw said:

12k votes now.

How many did Mulan have at this point of time?
not really apples-to-apples because I also note Mulan does have a lot of spam votes by haters and fans of competitors of Liu Yifei; plus I also know a lot of HK boycotters went to douban to purposely rate it low at that time..

 

 

about 17K. Seems like Mulan got more attention.

[john2000]

1 hour ago, Gavin Feng said:

 

about 17K. Seems like Mulan got more attention.

any guesses about when we are gonna hear about the release date ?  also have you heard something ?