alee7915 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) Beijing Premiere Edited June 24, 2014 by A K A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fmpro Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Hey FM pro buddy are you in China :-)??? Why do you feel Prime will blow Godzilla away my friend and glad your stating thats its great number for Godzilla.. Still you cant say it didnt live up to its potential when one of the biggest China monsters is about to debut .. Godzilla would have made 120-150+ if not for transformers and xmen..Those are massive behemoths good buddy. A lesser film would die a quick death. I hope your wrong though and Godzilla creeps to 90m or more Nahh. Im not in China. But i have been following chinese BO long enough to know that Godzilla wont gross much more than 80 mill and 76-77 mill is more likely..TF4 will take almost all screens away along with the local movie so thats why Godzilla will drop like a rock tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archerdude Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Its surprising Tom Cruise has never fully embraced the Chinese market. The international market has saved him in recent years and it would make perfect sense for him to be the one setting movies in China and having premieres there. An all out publicity offensive for Edge would have made its chinese box office even higher even though its obviously done well. I do remember MI3s finale was filmed in China but I think theres a real opportunity for someone like Cruise who still has a real star aura internationally to capitalise on the big asian markets.Something like a same date release for MI5 in South Korea, Japan and China with premieres in all 3 countries amd maybe some tv appearances could work wonders for box office. He did visit China, for Oblivion last year and it didn't crack 100 Mil...maybe he should stay away? Don't forget he shot M:I3 and came to China for that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archerdude Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 These numbers say DOFP did 1.13m on Sunday. Add that to the 718.6m Entgroup had it at through Saturday and you get 719.73m. Entgroup might end up reporting a different Sunday figure, but according to this, Entgroup had CA2's total at 718.9m, so DOFP only needs 300-400k on Sunday to pass it. (People who were pulling for CA2 can take solace in the fact that CA2 apparently had 28 screening days instead of 30; I assume it lost all of its last remaining screens to the May Day releases.) Edit: Looks like the "Saturday" figures from Entgroup were actually for Sunday...not sure where the error was (probably on my end). So it appears DOFP finished 300k below CA2 by Entgroup's numbers, but there might be another set out there. Asked a mate who has access to EN Database...it would appear CA retained its #2 imported film crown (let's face it, it will be supplanted by Transformers on top in a few days) against DOFP by a margin of 600-700,000 RMB, photo finish but Steve Rogers managed to eke out a win. Credit still to DOFP, no IMAX after all. Final counts should be 719.78 M for Cap 2, and just above 719 for DOFP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) I dunno, entgroup's numbers always seem different from the ones reported here/some other Chinese sites. The daily gross is always lower than the actuals posted here. Since those other sites say 720m, it must be somewhere between 719.5-720.4 I guess. EDIT: 6/23 Maleficent 23.34m (160m) Godzilla 12.02m (439m) EoT 5.02m (388m) DoFP 0.47m (721m) Edited June 24, 2014 by Skybreaker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 Final gross for DOFP should be at or slightly over 721m when all theaters and tickets have reported. For total box office, Entgroup only shows the reported numbers, without factoring in the leftover theaters/screening. In most cases, they dont care to revise their final numbers, which trends to be one/two or few millions lower than actuals. For daily box office, Entgroup database draws numbers from the Box Office System of China Film Speical Funds on an hourly base. But Entgroup's first wave daily report usually appears at 13pm or 14pm when as many as several hundred theaters still have not reported numbers on the System. So the later their reports are, the closer to actuals they are. Over 4000 theaters now actively play movies, but by end of the day (FI, 6.24, 23pm), there could be only 3700~3900 theaters that have reported box office for the previous day (FI, 6.23, not 6.24). By 13pm when Entroup first updates, maybe just 3300 have reported. For daily box office that re-posted here, it is usually revised estimates, factoring in leftover theaters, based on already reported actuals. Similar way, for movie X, why you see the total gross is usually a bit higher than the daily takes combined. There are always some theaters that unregularly delay their reports due to all kinds of reasons: staff late/busy, staff not working, ticket system down, ect. Sometimes those theaters could delay as long as over one week. That's aslo why DOFP final number could (and will) still go up a tiny bit despite it already closed on Monday. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 TF4 presales are about 10-15 times better than CA2 or DOFP at the same point before release! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Is a 200M OD (including midnights) theoretically possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 Is a 200M OD (including midnights) theoretically possible? Theoretically .... yes. But I doubt it could actually happen. Even Optimus Prime has his limitation .... IMO, it needs around 230m OD (OW should be 3x OD) to have a shot at $300m 1.86B. It's not getting 3x Total/OW multiplier given the date and huge opening. 200m OD should mean $250m~260m 1.6B total, 170M OD 1.4B~1.5B, 150m likely will miss Avatar record 1.38B. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I thought TF4 has no competition. Why cant it do > 3x legs. how about something like 70-75M OW/250M finish kind of run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Wow China really loves them some Transformers. I suppose this type of films get great WOM there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juni78ukr Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 It's the most anticipated movie of the year. Should be frontloaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 I thought TF4 has no competition. Why cant it do > 3x legs. how about something like 70-75M OW/250M finish kind of run. TF4 does have no major competition for 20 days. It's just my opinion. It opens huge, so I think the legs would not match CA2 or DOFP which opened much lower and had holidays during their later release. Plus, by this Weekend, at least one third students in the national should be out of shcool, comparing with none when CA2 or DOFP opened. (By 7.10, all students should be out.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 If it gets really strong WOM, then 3x might happen (in which case, over 600m yuan OW should do $300m). Who knows. Let's wait to see. Painted Skin 2 (2012) and Tiny Time (2013) opened on the same slot but on Thursday. Both decreased big on Friday. For TF4, it will be interesting to see: 1) how high the OD can go beyond setting new record; 2) How Saturday performs comparing with opening Friday; 3) How general audience feel about the film's Chinese elements, which should set a benchmark for future China-Hollywood blockbuster co-productions. To some point, TF4 is the first deep co-production in this category 4) How its box office legs will be. We know local tentpoles will open big and drop on this slot (the real beginning of summer holidays). But (huge) hollywood tentpoles never opened this weekend in the past. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Will TF4 play right throughout the summer unlike 30 days limit for hollywood releases. That should help in regards to stronger legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCS Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Don't really care about TF4 or how good/bad it is but am so excited to see it explode in China and stretch the box-office to its limits and more! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seng Wah Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Wow, exciting. It is going to break record in my country too. Cinemas adding more and more screens for tomorrow midnight. Our largest cinema here allocated 2/3 of the total halls just for TF4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Tuesday Est Maleficent 24m Total: 184m Godzilla 12.6m Total: 452m EoT 5.5m Total: 393m(400M will happen in the end!) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Tickets booked on Gewwara.com (50 hours before release) Godzilla 2,560 DOFP 2,569 CA2 2,001 TASM2 2,705 TF4 30,015 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...