China Box Office Thread | Deadpool & Wolverine- July 26

[Ash Skywalker]

Then what about HTTYD2 when it is going to release???

[Olive]

Sat revised

Trans 25.7M  45.7m  

ca2   22.2m 593M

Rio2  21.2M 135M

 

Trans will have a big drop today, CA is beating it at some theatres.

[Archerdude]

Sat revised

Trans 25.7M  45.7m  

ca2   22.2m 593M

Rio2  21.2M 135M

 

Trans will have a big drop today, CA is beating it at some theatres.

Go, Cap, go, birds!

[LexJoker]

Will Chinese GP have an effect on BO?

[Olive]

Captain America 2 passed 600M yuan(15,4M admissions) mark at 4PM today, becoming the 8th foreign movie to reach that milestone.

 

Avengers Assemble

1.Iron Man 3 - 768.4M

2.Cap America 2 - 600M (in release)

3.The Avengers - 568M

4.Thor 2 - 343.5M

5.Iron Man 2 - 179M

6.Thor - 98.2M

7.Cap America - 96.5M

8.Iron Man - 92M

[Archerdude]

Captain America 2 passed 600M yuan(15,4M admissions) mark at 4PM today, becoming the 8th foreign movie to reach that milestone.

 

Avengers Assemble

1.Iron Man 3 - 768.4M

2.Cap America 2 - 600M (in release)

3.The Avengers - 568M

4.Thor 2 - 343.5M

5.Iron Man 2 - 179M

6.Thor - 98.2M

7.Cap America - 96.5M

8.Iron Man - 92M

 

the other 7 are: Avatar, Titanic, Pacific Rim, Mission Impossible 4, Iron Man 3, Kungfu Panda 3, Transformers 3 (in no particular order)...what's the closest one for Cap to take down if it can, Olive?  M:I4?  KFP3?

[Olive]

the other 7 are: Avatar, Titanic, Pacific Rim, Mission Impossible 4, Iron Man 3, Kungfu Panda 3, Transformers 3 (in no particular order)...what's the closest one for Cap to take down if it can, Olive?  M:I4?  KFP3?

CAP will end up between MI4 and KFP2.

[Archerdude]

No one seems to have a definitive list of the 34 Revenue Share titles...while it is easy to say the likes of Cap, Rio and other major studio titles are, it gets blurry with the likes of Transcendence and Ender's Game...are they RS or Bought-Out/Flat Sold ones?  Be good if our elders can start running a list to countdown when the 34 slots are exhausted this year...it just never seems clear towards the end of every year...

[SchumacherFTW]

Will Chinese GP have an effect on BO?

Not in the slightest. China couldn't care less about F1

[Olive]

Yeah, F1 is not popular in China at all.

 

Sunday Est

Trans 20M  65.7m  

CA2   19m  612M

Rio2  19M 154M

[TalismanRing]

So $99m for Cap.  So close.  That's about a $19m week. Think it has another $10m in it with Spiderman 2 arriving?

[Bob Violence]

No one seems to have a definitive list of the 34 Revenue Share titles...while it is easy to say the likes of Cap, Rio and other major studio titles are, it gets blurry with the likes of Transcendence and Ender's Game...are they RS or Bought-Out/Flat Sold ones?  Be good if our elders can start running a list to countdown when the 34 slots are exhausted this year...it just never seems clear towards the end of every year...

 

firedeep said in December that Ender's Game was a quota release. I'd think Transcendence is a buyout since it was picked up by a local company (neither WB nor Summit are even mentioned in Chinese version of the film).

 

I am curious what the final quota for 2013 was, since Snowpiercer didn't get released until March and I've read it ended up being a buyout release.

Edited April 21, 2014 by Bob Violence

[Archerdude]

 

firedeep said in December that Ender's Game was a quota release. I'd think Transcendence is a buyout since it was picked up by a local company (neither WB nor Summit are even mentioned in Chinese version of the film).

 

I am curious what the final quota for 2013 was, since Snowpiercer didn't get released until March and I've read it ended up being a buyout release.

 

Bob, that's exactly what I mean, it is confusing for us on the outside looking in.  The non-major titles could be either way...heck, Iron Man was a buyout (which is ridiculous, someone made a ton of $ there) and Hotel Transylvania was a buyout (also preposterous, why would Sony sell their animated's?), so even that's not for sure anymore.  Then you get Snowpiercer and Ender's Game...it gets pretty confusing and China Films aren't the most transparent out there with these...wonder if we have insiders who can give us a better idea...

[Archerdude]

BTW, thanks to Firedeep, that was the kind of list I'm looking for exactly...would love an update as at April for the 2014 titles!

Edited April 21, 2014 by Archerdude

[A Marvel Fanboy]

Bob, that's exactly what I mean, it is confusing for us on the outside looking in.  The non-major titles could be either way...heck, Iron Man was a buyout (which is ridiculous, someone made a ton of $ there) and Hotel Transylvania was a buyout (also preposterous, why would Sony sell their animated's?), so even that's not for sure anymore.  Then you get Snowpiercer and Ender's Game...it gets pretty confusing and China Films aren't the most transparent out there with these...wonder if we have insiders who can give us a better idea...

It turned out Korea's The Thieves was classified as a revenue sharing release after all. So that makes 34 for 2013.

 

In recent years Sony had released quite a few non-blockbusters under the cover of buyout releases in China. Last year they had: Skyfall, Django Unchained, After Earth, White House Down, Elysium, Smurfs 2, Stalingrad; RE5, Hotel Transylvania, the longest line up for any foreign studio. Sony/Columbia Pic launched a subsidiary (a different one than Columbia China) in China in 2012 under the name of United Exhibitor Partners, which invests in and distributes both Chinese local and foreign films.

 

It is quite flexible at times that either a film eventually writes down as a RS or a buyout release, especially when the film is not from Hollywood big six. It pretty much all depends on the needs of CFGC. You get what I mean ...

 

If there is any Chinese partner behind a big Hollywood movie then it is possible to be released as a buyout (like IM3 and even this year's TF4 ...).

 

BTW, thanks to Firedeep, that was the kind of list I'm looking for exactly...would love an update as at April for the 2014 titles!

2014 RS quota that have been used (in no order):

 

Despicable Me 2

Ender's Game 

Robocop

Hobbit 2

Jack Ryan 

Frozen

Snowpierce

Need for Speed

Peabody

Monuments‘ Men

Cap 2

Rio

Amazing Spideman

Godzilla

(Am I missing any one ?)

[Archerdude]

Many thanks...will ask an update in a few months, as someone stated, the next couple of months get screwy as protectionism kicks in.

[Bob Violence]

Bob, that's exactly what I mean, it is confusing for us on the outside looking in.  The non-major titles could be either way...heck, Iron Man was a buyout (which is ridiculous, someone made a ton of $ there)

 

Iron Man 3 was a buyout because of the co-production angle. Marvel/Disney gave up whatever share they would've received from a revenue-shared release in exchange for DMG kicking in a chunk of the budget. I read somewhere (probably here, heh) that it was around $20m, but I don't think that's an official number. This is presumably what happened with Transcendence as well. DMG isn't involved with Transformers 4 but I imagine the basic arrangement is the same, just with different partners on the Chinese side.

 

As for "a ton of $," I assume DMG made a nice profit on IM3, but it would depend on how much of the budget they actually contributed, how much of the gross they were able to get, and how much they spent on marketing and distribution. Bear in mind that IM3 wouldn't have made as much without DMG's involvement (for example, it wouldn't have received a holiday release, it wouldn't have gotten a five-week run, and it wouldn't have had such a big marketing push), so you can't just say "well shit, IM3 made $120m in China, so Marvel would've earned more than $20m if they'd released it as a regular quota title." It wouldn't have made $120m as a regular quota title. And even if Marvel didn't come out ahead in dollar terms, it was good for their brand in China.

Edited April 21, 2014 by Bob Violence

[Bob Violence]

Zhang Yimou's Coming Home is now a May 16th release, so Godzilla is definitely out of mid-May and probably out of May altogether.

[pepsa]

Iron Man 3 was a buyout because of the co-production angle. Marvel/Disney gave up whatever share they would've received from a revenue-shared release in exchange for DMG kicking in a chunk of the budget. I read somewhere (probably here, heh) that it was around $20m, but I don't think that's an official number. This is presumably what happened with Transcendence as well. DMG isn't involved with Transformers 4 but I imagine the basic arrangement is the same, just with different partners on the Chinese side.

 

As for "a ton of $," I assume DMG made a nice profit on IM3, but it would depend on how much of the budget they actually contributed, how much of the gross they were able to get, and how much they spent on marketing and distribution. Bear in mind that IM3 wouldn't have made as much without DMG's involvement (for example, it wouldn't have received a holiday release, it wouldn't have gotten a five-week run, and it wouldn't have had such a big marketing push), so you can't just say "well shit, IM3 made $120m in China, so Marvel would've earned more than $20m if they'd released it as a regular quota title." It wouldn't have made $120m as a regular quota title. And even if Marvel didn't come out ahead in dollar terms, it was good for their brand in China.

 

Did they release Cap2 under marvel or is it also DMG?

[Bob Violence]

TDW and CA2 were both regular quota imports with no Chinese co-production involvement. I haven't heard anything about future co-productions from Marvel, but if the Chinese market keeps going the way it is, I'm sure they'll attempt another one sooner or later.

Edited April 21, 2014 by Bob Violence