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This petulant, insufferable piece is a perfect example.... https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/opinion/2019/11/19/the-frozen-2-sequel-is-not-a-movie-its-a-sadistic-prison-for-parents.html

3.58x OW: $56,237,634 Total: $201,091,711 Bear in mind that opening is the 3-day opening weekend so it skews things a bit.

I realize this comparison is probably useless, but the last November animation from Disney to open on a Friday - Big Hero 6 on November 7, 2014 - saw a 66.9% Saturday bump from true Friday. Again, I know it was 5 years ago and much smaller numbers but there's some basis for a huge Saturday increase for this kind of film.

Don't give @IronJimbo any ideas!

My thoughts almost exactly. The first act was the weakest. The pacing was off I felt. The film just jumped from scene to scene, seemingly just meandering until the meat of the story kicked in. I know what you mean about the singing too (in the beginning). Felt like the writers were chomping at the bit to get songs in. The last two acts were great, the last one being absolutely brilliant! I don't really need to go on more as you pretty much covered it. I agree with everything.

I think we're entering a landscape where pretty much all films are "presales heavy". Yes, even family/animated films, as we've learned this year. Pre buying tickets is just how most people do it now. It's not a niche custom anymore.

Yeah, this is as big a slam dunk as it gets. Then again, I thought that about The Lion King. Didn't think you could possibly make that movie and not have almost universal praise from the audience.

Oof, that's so bad. So cringeworthy,

Oh, don't I know it. I'm just hoping it's GOOD enough that the quality can cancel out the lack of originality. Like I said, all for the sake of positive stories at the box office. I don't even care what they are (besides the obvious ones).

I hope it can breakout and do something totally unexpected, like $35M+ FSS. If any non franchise movie is going to do that, it would be a super crowd pleaser like this one seems to be.

That's good to hear! I agree that a high multi (aka over 15) isn't very far-fetched. There's just so much demand to see this that won't be burned off on Thursday night. We're talking about a ton of families who are content to take their kids on Friday evening/Saturday/Sunday, rather than catch a Thursday preview.

Yep, makes sense. They're right back to the Wednesday release date with Raya and the Last Dragon next year so this was a one-off. It also helped that there wasn't a big tentpole opening on this date like there usually is on the pre-Thanksgiving weekend. 2018: Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald (November 16) 2017: Justice League (November 17) 2016: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them (November 18) 2015: The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 2 (November 20) 2014: The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1 (November 21) 2013: The Hunger Games: Catching Fire (November 22) 2012: The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 2 (November 16) 2011: The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 1 (November 18) 2010: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1 (November 19) 2009: The Twilight Saga: New Moon (November 20) 2008: Twilight (November 21) That's a pretty long standing tradition on the movie calendar. Disney had a huge opportunity this year and they took it I guess.

What are your thoughts at the moment on the 3-day opening weekend? How big can this break out?

I wonder if it was the sheer size of this movie that made Disney break with tradition and release it over the pre-Thanksgiving weekend, rather than midweek like they usually do with their Thanksgiving animations. Maybe they wanted the headlines that come with a big opening weekend. I also wonder what kind of an opening day this could have had if it was released on Wednesday the 27th.

Thanks! I didn't see it on their twitter feed but didn't even think to check the website haha.

Tell us!!

Did anyone see an estimated location count for Queen & Slim reported anywhere?

Yeah was just going to say that the hold next weekend will undoubtedly be really strong, compensating for the OW if in fact it's depressed in any way (which it very well could be because of the luxury many folks will have of seeing it during the week or following weekend).

In all seriousness (and this is probably not news to you or any of the other regular trackers in this thread), I'm having a lot of trouble finding a comp for this as far as multis go. Someone made a really good point earlier that no non-summer animation has ever opened over $70M, which never really occurred to me even if plain to see. This really is kind of uncharted territory. What muddies the waters even more is this is a Friday opener, whereas Disney has customarily opened their Thanksgiving animation films on Wednesday for awhile now. 14 is the multi I've seen thrown around a few times, which would result in a $129.5M OW based on $9.25M previews. Can't help but think the weekend can go higher than that based on F/S/S presales.

Hey @Porthos Would NOW be a good time to ask you your thoughts on the multi?

I know Frozen II will do amazing business regardless, but I am pretty surprised most signs are pointing to below $10M in previews. Sales are really good throughout the whole weekend so obviously the multi is going to be really strong though.

So the November record is.... out the window?

Will definitely be seeing this!

Right. *Smacks head* Wasn't even thinking of those kind of contractual obligations.