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Well that's depressing. More proof of the changing movie landscape.

Yeah that sounds about right. Maybe Charlie can chime in here.

Either way, it's probably not going to make its budget back, domestically speaking. Big yikes, considering we're talking about a studio who usually nails horror films (It, Conjuring universe etc. ).

I for one am shocked. The genre is definitely not in my wheelhouse so I cant really be the judge of whether it looks good or not, but I guess I just lazily assumed this would be a go-to holiday film for adults, couples, girls night out etc. Too bad for Emilia and Henry though. Both are likeable people whom I want to see succeed.

Neat. Another nice achievement for Bong Joon-ho. As I said, I'm interested to see what the PTA will be like. I have a feeling it won't be expanding any wider than this but we'll see.

Oh...well that's good!

I'll wait for this one. The concept definitely doesn't scream "Must See In Theatres" to me. Like @John Harris put it, the whole thing seems rather lightweight. Kind of like a Paddington movie.

Hmm, odd. His talent is extraordinary and I enjoy watching him so it's too bad he's got such a small part in this.

Looks like this could end up doing alright. Tracking for a low to mid teens opening. I'm not sure what the budget is though.

Well Office Christmas Party would be a perfect example of what I said about the danger of releasing a Christmas movie too CLOSE to Christmas. It's a balancing act. You're probably right in that adult Christmas movies probably have limited appeal in general, but if they're going to release them anyway you wonder if US Thanksgiving isn't ultimately the perfect time.

He has one scene??

Timeline for a release for a Christmas themed film is a hard thing to nail down. You don't want to release it too late either because Christmas themed movies crash and burn the moment the calendar hits December 26. I always thought the 2nd weekend of November was perfect. Open it before US Thanksgiving, let Thanksgiving help the 3rd/4th weekend legs and carry it over to Christmas time. @TwoMisfits made a good point in another thread: maybe this is the right time for children/family oriented Christmas movies, whereas adults may want to wait until US Thanksgiving or right after for Christmas movies that are just for them. How do you think this would have done opening on the 27th alongside Knives Out and Queen & Slim?

Serious question here, not poking fun or engaging in fan wars: Why do you think it's performing like it is? I'm asking as someone who hasn't seen it for myself yet (I never go by reviews).

It's amazing how a certain portion of society nowadays literally do not give a shit about facts, and instead roll with their feelings or whatever. It's like the film Mary Queen of Scots. There absolutely would not have been a black man in Elizabeth's court but that doesn't matter. Diversity in the cast means more to people than presenting factual portrayals.

@IronJimbo why don't you do your boy Jim a favour and buy out a couple theatres for this? Get it to at least $75M, man, come on now!

The early numbers for this are more surprising for me than Doctor Sleep. People really aren't going for this as much as I thought. Rom coms really are dead.

Really disappointing numbers for this so far but it isn't deterring my interest. Looking forward to seeing it tomorrow.

That $17.2M estimate for Doctor Sleep is shocking as a whole but it makes sense based on the pitiful preview number. Last year on the same weekend (November 9-11) Overlord did 11.3x its previews ($900K). The same multi for DS's $1.5M previews gives $16.95M.

Yeesh. I thought Last Christmas would play way better than that.

Thanks @Napoleon. I didn't look into it myself because I guess I wrongly assumed Universal would be vague about it, kind of like Warner Bros. with The Curse of La Llorona.

Hmm okay. That makes sense.

Okay, so in other words they're still going ahead with the cinematic universe, just re-launching it and cutting out The Mummy 17?

So this is a Dark Universe movie? Or no?

I haven't seen any yet (on YouTube anyway). That bad?

Expands into 603 theatres tomorrow, so officially, yet just barely, wide. The PTA will be interesting. It's still not reaching too wide an audience, but is there enough interest to drive good numbers in 603 theatres? We'll see....