babz06 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Lily Collins has been a fixture in women's magazines for years now, thanks to having a famous father. She's also been in the VF's Young Hollywood cover, been claimed as the leader of Hollywood's next leading ladies, and one magazine even said MI would do to her what Twilight did for Stewart and Hunger Games for Lawrence. When that kind of narrative is being pushed before you have done anything to deserve it, then yes, industry is trying to make her an it-girl. Why to give him the lead role then instead of someone more talented if he doesn't have any draw power and can't impress the audience? Hollywood is reluctant to give starring roles for women and POCs since they don't supposedly draw audience to cinemas but give plenty of bland white males starring roles before they have proved themselves. That's what many of us find annoying. Lily Collins has been a fixture in women's magazines for years now, thanks to having a famous father. She's also been in the VF's Young Hollywood cover, been claimed as the leader of Hollywood's next leading ladies, and one magazine even said MI would do to her what Twilight did for Stewart and Hunger Games for Lawrence. When that kind of narrative is being pushed before you have done anything to deserve it, then yes, industry is trying to make her an it-girl. Why to give him the lead role then instead of someone more talented if he doesn't have any draw power and can't impress the audience? Hollywood is reluctant to give starring roles for women and POCs since they don't supposedly draw audience to cinemas but give plenty of bland white males starring roles before they have proved themselves. That's what many of us find annoying. True tea. They were definitely trying to promote Liam as a draw for women.He's riding on his last name, and THG and not talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 It was a drama (and sold as one as well), not a comedy, and dramas starring comedians aren’t known for doing well at the box office. Again not a good example. It's a brilliant example because it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) It's a brilliant example because it works. Oh! I see what you did there. Liam Hemsworth isn’t known for doing one specific genre (like comedies or action movies), but either way he isn’t a box office draw, and I doubt he’s going to be a leading man for much longer Edited August 22, 2013 by Boxofficefanatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babz06 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) Liam Hemsworth was in The Last Song, a small little hit, and was in The Hunger Games, a giant blockbuster. Picking him is still a safer bet than some random person They still had Ford and Oldman. Putting an unknown in the lead would not have made an difference to the box office. Edited August 22, 2013 by babz06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Lily Collins has been a fixture in women's magazines for years now, thanks to having a famous father. She's also been in the VF's Young Hollywood cover, been claimed as the leader of Hollywood's next leading ladies, and one magazine even said MI would do to her what Twilight did for Stewart and Hunger Games for Lawrence. When that kind of narrative is being pushed before you have done anything to deserve it, then yes, industry is trying to make her an it-girl. While they often work in conjunction together, there's a huge difference between the gossip/print industry and the movie industry. I don't see her being marketed more heavily than many other young female starlets or celebs: Emma Roberts, Abigail Breslin, Miley Cyrus, Camilla Belle, Dakota Fanning, Zoe Kazan, Amanda Seyfried, Lea Michele, etc etc etc. I have no idea how Lily Collins' career will end up, but it's pointless to write her off after one minor hit and one (potential) flop, especially when one of those is primarily being marketed through the name recognition of the YA series. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 what is up with this obsession with Hemsworth? They cast him in some cheap thriller because he has some recognition from a couple of films and it flopped. That doesn't mean his career is dead. Far from it he is first billed but his face is not more prominent than anyone else 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Sorry to be harsh here but for a site that is supposed to be film savvy, there are an awful lot of questionable things being said here today. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 FIST, Paradise Alley and Nighthawks sure killed Stallone's career too. Whatever happened to him after 1981? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tawasal Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 It's a lot better than bleeding money all summer, not to mention they're coming off a year with SKYFALL, HOTEL TRANSYLVANIA, ZERO DARK THIRTY, TASM, MIB3... Not the most glamorous, nor the hugest grosses, but solid enough. If this is the way I see it, then how is 304m not a huge gross? Or I might be misinterpreting your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tawasal Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) FIST, Paradise Alley and Nighthawks sure killed Stallone's career too. Whatever happened to him after 1981? He went on to make little movies called Rocky 3 & 4 and Rambo 2. Edited August 22, 2013 by tawasal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 He went on to make little movies called Rocky 3 & 4 and Rambo 2. and Hemsworth has Hunger Games movies coming up in which he will constantly have a bigger role and who knows what other films coming up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tawasal Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Christian Bale had nothing before Batman movies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 CRY BABY, BENNY & JOON, ED WOOD, NICK OF TIME, and DEAD MAN sure killed Johnny Depp's career. Not to mention FEAR AND LOATHING IN LAS VEGAS, THE ASTRONAUT'S WIFE, and THE NINTH GATE. LEGEND OF BAGGER VANCE completely killed Will Smith's career, ALL THE RIGHT MOVES ruined Tom Cruise, POISON IVY and MAD LOVE made Drew Barrymore vanish from the earth, and thank god we never saw Schwarzenegger again after RED SONJA and RAW DEAL. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 If this is the way I see it, then how is 304m not a huge gross? Or I might be misinterpreting your post. Oh SKYFALL is ginormous, I meant their overall slate for 2012 (since there were some losses as well that I didn't mention). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 No one got it after the first example. Please, give us more. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Always good to end the Summer with an epic flop. Now bring the 1D and the giant crazyness that will happen next weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Gary Scott Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Always good to end the Summer with an epic flop. Now bring the 1D and the giant crazyness that will happen next weekend.its not really that epic of a flop though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 He went on to make little movies called Rocky 3 & 4 and Rambo 2. Never heard of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Always good to end the Summer with an epic flop. Now bring the 1D and the giant crazyness that will happen next weekend. Giant craziness better happen! I want riots in the streets from all the angry fangirls when every show is sold out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Okay, can we stop comparing Liam Hemsworth to all these great actors? We got what you were trying to say 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
