A Marvel Fanboy Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Starting next year, Dreamworks animation is going full retard with 3 movies per year in 2014,2015,2016. The CGI animation market is getting ridiculously crowded. Pixar will release 2 movies every two year, plus Illumination + Blue Sky + Disney Animation + Sony Animation etc etc etc Look what happened to Turbo this year ... Because animations are more profitable than live actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowhite Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Because animations are more profitable than live actions.Well, when they make gobs of money at the box office...yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJackSparrow Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Because animations are more profitable than live actions.Because of merchandise I assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Because of merchandise I assume? Those Turbo snails sold like crazy this summer ... NOT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitik Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Because of merchandise I assume? Get ready to see all those Turbo toys clearanced out to 50-75% off in January. Then maybe 90% off next summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitik Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Those Turbo snails sold like crazy this summer ... NOT. you're faster than me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Because of merchandise I assume? Pretty much. Also animated movies trend to do better at home video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowhite Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) Because of merchandise I assume?Because some animation makes lots of money at the box office. Don't overestimate merchandise. It's cause animation can be big business. But not always though. DW has seen lots of success, not cause of merchandise (sure it helps)...but cause some of their movies simply made lots of money. Edited October 19, 2013 by kowhite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) Starting next year, Dreamworks animation is going full retard with 3 movies per year in 2014,2015,2016.The CGI animation market is getting ridiculously crowded. Pixar will release 2 movies every two year, plus Illumination + Blue Sky + Disney Animation + Sony Animation etc etc etcLook what happened to Turbo this year ... I imagine there will be casualties, I could see a studio like Sony either closing or downsizing and it'll affect the likes of Disney and Dreamworks as well.They don't need regular DW to do live action though. In fact, they'll probably go there without them. Largely off their Classic Media acquisition. Heck they are probably the only company to actually profit off The Lone Ranger cause of that.TBH with their expansion into other areas like theme parks and television, live action films and television seems like a logical step but whether Katzenberg wants to make live action films is another matter, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a live action/CG hybrid from DWA.Because some animation makes lots of money at the box office. Don't overestimate merchandise. It's cause animation can be big business. But not always though. DW has seen lots of success, not cause of merchandise (sure it helps)...but cause some of their movies simply made lots of money.Wasn't Cars 2 and also Planes greenlit due to the mammoth Merch sales? Animation is a good tool for selling toys and many TV shows have been cancelled not because of ratings but simply as the toys didn't sell eg Thundercats I'm sure Scooby Doo and Batman get new cartoons because the toys and Merch sell like crazy, Edited October 19, 2013 by Jonwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Turbo does better in toy sales then movie sales :PYou know I wonder if there ever was a film that did so bad that it did better on the dollar theater run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitik Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 2014 animation (and puppetry) January - The Nut Job February - The Lego Movie, The Wind Rises March - Mr Peabody & Sherman, Muppets Most Wanted April - Rio 2 June - HTTYD 2 July - Planes 2 September - The Boxtrolls October - Book Of Life November - Big Hero 6, Home Is that too many? Some are bound to flop. (Obviously The Wind Rises won't be a blockbuster, but what about the rest?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 2014 animation (and puppetry) January - The Nut JobFebruary - The Lego Movie, The Wind RisesMarch - Mr Peabody & Sherman, Muppets Most WantedApril - Rio 2June - HTTYD 2July - Planes 2September - The BoxtrollsOctober - Book Of LifeNovember - Big Hero 6, Home Is that too many? Some are bound to flop. (Obviously The Wind Rises won't be a blockbuster, but what about the rest?)Boxtrolls and Book of Life are stop motion and stop motion doesn't do big business, the only real successful stop motion films are Nightmare before Christmas and Chicken Run, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowhite Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Wasn't Cars 2 and also Planes greenlit due to the mammoth Merch sales? Animation is a good tool for selling toys and many TV shows have been cancelled not because of ratings but simply as the toys didn't sell eg Thundercats I'm sure Scooby Doo and Batman get new cartoons because the toys and Merch sell like crazy,Ok, yes, but Cars is simply not normal. Merch can be huge...but you can't look at your average animation and think it's like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Freak Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Those Turbo snails sold like crazy this summer ... NOT. Well, if the movie is completely hopeless, why would anyone be interested in buying the merchandise? But I do think merchandise plays a huge, HUGE role when in comes to greenlighting animation films. Merchandise is the reason almost every animated film has annoying to cute animal sidekicks, to sell those damn Happy Meals. The "Disney Princess" brand is a giant irrespective of the level of success of the actual princess films. Buzz Lightyear and Woody toys and accessories were probably in the list of most popular items for little boys in the last two decades or so. Merchandising drives animation like no other genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Freak Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Boxtrolls and Book of Life are stop motion and stop motion doesn't do big business, the only real successful stop motion films are Nightmare before Christmas and Chicken Run, Coraline did ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowhite Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Coraline did ok.Cinderbiter did ...not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Ok, yes, but Cars is simply not normal. Merch can be huge...but you can't look at your average animation and think it's like that. Yep, Cars is the exception, not the rule. Not every CGI animation movie becomes a merchandising cash cow. Can you buy Minions in stores ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitik Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Merchandising drives animation like no other genre. I don't know. I think they sell a hell of a lot more Spider-Man and Star Wars and Transformers toys than they do for just about every animated film not named Cars. The animation genre is driven by home video sales more than any other genre. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitik Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Boxtrolls and Book of Life are stop motion and stop motion doesn't do big business, the only real successful stop motion films are Nightmare before Christmas and Chicken Run, Yeah but look at that schedule. After Planes 2 in mid July, those are the only 2 animated movies listed before November. I wouldn't be surprised if something like Boxtrolls put up some decent numbers for that reason alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Freak Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Can you buy Minions in stores ? You will by July 2015. Also watch out for those damn Happy Meal toys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
