ITALY (Botteghino): 'Kung Fu Panda 4' stronger than predecessor

[Omni]

We'll see. It's certainly more than just possible but we're getting a very hot 2nd half of August.

 

19/08/19 (Monday)

 

1	FAST & FURIOUS - HOBBS & SHAW (FAST & FURIOUS PRESENTS: HOBBS & SHAW)	08/08/2019	USA	UNIVERSAL S.R.L.	€ 160.133	24.664
2	CRAWL - INTRAPPOLATI	15/08/2019	USA	20TH CENTURY FOX ITALIA S.P.A.	€ 49.956	8.154
3	MEN IN BLACK INTERNATIONAL	25/07/2019	USA	WARNER BROS ITALIA S.P.A.	€ 29.310	5.059
4	SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME	10/07/2019	USA	WARNER BROS ITALIA S.P.A.	€ 27.436	4.433
5	THE NEST (IL NIDO)	15/08/2019	ITA	VISION DISTRIBUTION	€ 27.429	4.493
6	TOY STORY 4	26/06/2019	USA	WALT DISNEY S.M.P. ITALIA	€ 16.201	3.550
7	THE QUAKE - IL TERREMOTO DEL SECOLO (SKJELVET)	08/08/2019	NOR	ALTRE STORIE	€ 10.331	2.052
8	SERENITY	29/06/2019	GBR	LUCKY RED DISTRIB.	€ 6.408	1.034
9	KIN	15/08/2019	USA	INDIPENDENTI REGIONALI	€ 5.290	1.113
10	ISABELLE - L'ULTIMA EVOCAZIONE (THE WANTING)	01/08/2019	CAN	NOTORIOUS PICT. S.P.A.	€ 4.891	815

 

Pretty solid Monday all around. Toy Story 4 is down only 14% from last week's rainy Monday, but the magic will end tomorrow.

[Omni]

20/09/19 (Tuesday)

 

1	FAST & FURIOUS - HOBBS & SHAW (FAST & FURIOUS PRESENTS: HOBBS & SHAW)	08/08/2019	USA	UNIVERSAL S.R.L.	€ 147.451	23.552
2	CRAWL - INTRAPPOLATI	15/08/2019	USA	20TH CENTURY FOX ITALIA S.P.A.	€ 44.873	7.552
3	SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME	10/07/2019	USA	WARNER BROS ITALIA S.P.A.	€ 25.841	4.280
4	MEN IN BLACK INTERNATIONAL	25/07/2019	USA	WARNER BROS ITALIA S.P.A.	€ 25.627	4.336
5	THE NEST (IL NIDO)	15/08/2019	ITA	VISION DISTRIBUTION	€ 25.021	4.209
6	IT	19/10/2017	USA	WARNER BROS ITALIA S.P.A.	€ 20.396	3.258
7	TOY STORY 4	26/06/2019	USA	WALT DISNEY S.M.P. ITALIA	€ 16.266	3.609
8	THE QUAKE - IL TERREMOTO DEL SECOLO (SKJELVET)	08/08/2019	NOR	ALTRE STORIE	€ 8.706	1.755
9	KIN	15/08/2019	USA	INDIPENDENTI REGIONALI	€ 6.757	1.429
10	ISABELLE - L'ULTIMA EVOCAZIONE (THE WANTING)	01/08/2019	CAN	NOTORIOUS PICT. S.P.A.	€ 6.325	1.107

 

Seeing The Lion King this afternoon. It has 18 showtimes per day in my theater.

[Aristis]

4 minutes ago, Omni said:

6 IT 19/10/2017 USA WARNER BROS ITALIA S.P.A. € 20.396 3.258

Is IT getting some showtimes until the opening of the second part? Or why is that?

[Omni]

11 minutes ago, Aristis said:

Is IT getting some showtimes until the opening of the second part? Or why is that?

There was a limited rerelease yesterday, with an 8 minute long preview of the second chapter.

It shows how big of a phenomenon the first chapter was (14.4M, 5th gross of the season, just 4% lower than Star Wars 8 and 22% lower than Infinity War). Stuff like this is kind of unprecedented, and would make more sense for a big Marvel movie.

It 2 is actually the second biggest concern for The Lion King after the good weather. Usually when a second phenomenon is released, the first one freefalls. Hopefully weather will be rainy by that time.

[Omni]

Saw The Lion King (spectacular, but without the depth the original had), and the theater was very busy.

Minions opened with a bit more than 2M euros (on a Thursday) and ended up at 23+. Considering that movies usually drop in the 20's on a summer Thursday, this means The Lion King has to open around 3M on Wednesday to have a chance at beating Endgame.

 

Anyways, Moviement has released the total grosses of the last 3/4 months, and this is how they look like:

 

SUMMER 2019 VS 2018
August*: € 8.605.143 - € 8.422.061
July: € 27.277.992 - € 13.168.659
June: € 25.259.057 - € 22.413.132
May: € 48.176.269 - € 34.346.120

* first two weeks

 

So May and July were the clear standouts. May was boosted by Endgame and Aladdin, and even more by the terrible weather. July had Spider Man, which alone represents 70% of the gap. June was crazy hot and all blockbuster bombed, so the gain was minimal. August is so far actually down from 2018 (when taking into account the 3rd week of the month) but starting from today things should change.

Edited August 21, 2019 by Omni

[Omni]

 

€ 2.943.307

432.892 admissions

 

5th best OD ever, and 4th for a Hollywood release (behind Endgame, HP7/2 and Infinity War, trailing HP and IW by less than 5%).

All time #1 non-Cameron Hollywood movie is play. Endgame is shaking.

[Legion Again]

Man, fucking Europe and TLK. This is not great news for JW 

[infamous5445]

I never realized how crazy Europe was for The Lion King.

[charlie Jatinder]

I am actually surprised by people being surprise by how good TLK is doing.

 

It has massively underperformed in USA and China by atleast $200mn each. 

[XXR vs XXR]

10 hours ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

I am actually surprised by people being surprise by how good TLK is doing.

 

It has massively underperformed in USA and China by atleast $200mn each. 

 

If it had reached my (our) pre-release expectations for the domestic market and China, my club would have succeeded....

[Omni]

 

€ 2.478.254

371.297 admissions

 

Sub-20% drop on its first Thursday, a better hold than Aladdin. The number is 24% above Minions' OD (fell on a Thursday). Using that movie's legs, The Lion King is getting the non-Cameron all time record. Endgame is now really shitting its pants.

 

At this point the movie may get a 5-day opening above 2M admissions. Insane.

[fabiopazzo2]

This is not a surprise

[Omni]

1 hour ago, fabiopazzo2 said:

This is not a surprise

Well, Italy has produced just 2 30M+ dollar Hollywood movies in the last 8 years. One was a crazy phenomenon that kept getting multiple views (Bohemian Rhapsody) and the other was the most anticipated movie of all time opening at the beginning of a 10-day holiday and of one of the rainiest months ever (Endgame). The Lion King is The Lion King, but 30M euros are still 30M euros.

Also, these numbers suggest that 5M admissions are possibile, while even the mighty Endgame stopped a bit over 4.

Edited August 23, 2019 by Omni

[terrestrial]

 

On 8/22/2019 at 8:34 AM, Omni said:

 

€ 2.943.307

432.892 admissions

 

5th best OD ever, and 4th for a Hollywood release (behind Endgame, HP7/2 and Infinity War, trailing HP and IW by less than 5%).

All time #1 non-Cameron Hollywood movie is play. Endgame is shaking.

 

6 hours ago, Omni said:

 

€ 2.478.254

371.297 admissions

 

Sub-20% drop on its first Thursday, a better hold than Aladdin. The number is 24% above Minions' OD (fell on a Thursday). Using that movie's legs, The Lion King is getting the non-Cameron all time record. Endgame is now really shitting its pants.

 

At this point the movie may get a 5-day opening above 2M admissions. Insane.

 

some weeks back...

On 7/18/2019 at 5:31 PM, Omni said:

August 21st. The best release date for family movies along with the pre-Christmas one.

I guess they chose the release date well enough

 

[Omni]

Minions' pattern

 

Thursday > 1.976.456

Friday > 1.569.013 (-21%)

Saturday > 1.718.787 (+10%)

Sunday > 1.707.862 (-0%)

OW > 7.163.286

Monday > 1.028.337 (-40%)

Tuesday > 1.010.396 (-2%)

Wednesday > 1.218.848 (+21%)

Thursday > 772.341 (-37%)

Friday > 902,065 (+17%)

Saturday > 1.629.662 (+81%) rain rain rain

Sunday > 1.356.218 (-17%)

2nd weekend > 4.843.498 (-32%) // Total: 15.489.855)

Monday > 482.720 (-64%) some schools started

Tuesday > 572.385 (+18%)

Wednesday > 588.259 (+3%)

Thursday > 364.524 (-38%)

Friday > 428.186 (+18%)

Saturday > 658.555 (+54%)

Sunday > 1.150.000 (rough number, can’t find the actual – lots of rain)

3rd weekend > 2.668.177 (-45%) // Total: 19.760.468
4th weekend > 1.010.222 (-62%) Inside Out opened // 21.313.070
5th weekend > 688.495 (-31%) // Total: 22.243.517
6th weekend > 486.720 (-29%) // Total: 22.858.495
7th weekend > 203.981 (-58%) HT2 opened // Total: 23.127.341

Total: 23.450.000

 

The Lion King should have no trouble keeping a 20%+ gain over the yellow bananas until the weekend. It needs some bad weather though to keep that pace the week after and make it reach the all time non-Cameron title.

 

The funny thing is that the #1 non-Cameron movie currently is...The Lion King (32.9M euros)!

[Sometimes I mentioned Alice in Wonderland as #1 (30.4M), but that's just on the official "lazy" charts, that use the incomplete numbers released by Cinetel (which now covers 19/20 of the theaters, but 25 years ago just half of them).]

 

[Omni]

ALL TIME TOP 30 (GROSS)

- complete SIAE numbers -

- Hollywood movies in red -

 

1. TITANIC € 71,100,000
2. AVATAR € 66,800,000
3. QUO VADO € 66.000.000 (est)
4. SOLE A CATINELLE € 56,000,000
5. LA VITA E' BELLA € 47,700,000
6. CHE BELLA GIORNATA € 43,474,000
7. IL CICLONE € 40,000,000
8. FUOCHI D'ARTIFICIO € 38,300,000
9. CHIEDIMI SE SONO FELICE € 37,843,000
10. NATALE SUL NILO € 34,622,000
11. PINOCCHIO € 33,520,000
12. THE LION KING (1994) € 32,900,000
13. COSI' E' LA VITA € 32,300,000
14. ICE AGE 3 € 31,150,000
15. ALICE IN WONDERLAND € 31,000,000
16. THE DA VINCI CODE € 30,873,000

17. AVENGERS: ENDGAME € 30,800,000* (est)
18. BENVENUTI AL SUD € 30,700,000

19. BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY € 29,850,000
20. HARRY POTTER AND THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE € 29,383,000
21. IL PARADISO ALL'IMPROVVISO € 29,000,000
22. IL MOSTRO € 28,200,000
23. BENVENUTI AL NORD € 27,193,000

24. INSIDE OUT € 26,750,000* (est)
24. THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING € 26,550,000
25. MADAGASCAR 2 € 26,400,000
26. JURASSIC PARK € 26,300,000
27. NATALE A RIO € 25,900,000
28. STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS € 26.000.000* (est)

29. ALADDIN (1992) € 25,800,000

30. THE LORD OF THE RING - THE RETURN OF THE KING € 25,550,000

 

The estimes (Endgame, Inside Out, SW7) are based on how much their respective genre usually gain once all the theaters are counted (2% at best for big blockbusters with huge fanbase, 5%+ for animated movies not aiming too much at kids).

The most impressive non-Cameron results are Lion King, Jurassic Park and Aladdin, still in the top 30 despite being from the last century. Harry Potter 1 was totally crazy too.

Edited August 23, 2019 by Omni

[fabiopazzo2]

40 minutes ago, Omni said:

The most impressive non-Cameron results are Lion King, Jurassic Park and Aladdin,

And BohemianR. Totally crazy 

[Omni]

A bit more than 1/2 of the admissions of the three I mentioned. Da Vinci Code definitely crazier.

[Omni]

 

€ 2.618.593

386.245 admissions

 

An increase. Yes, an increase. The movie managed to rise 5% on a summer Friday after a record-breaking couple of days. The lead on Minions went from 24% to over 60%. And all of this with 30°C+ across the country. The cume is already above 8M.

 

Also, the OD number was revised up, from 2.95 to 3.09. The Lion King now holds the 3rd best OD ever for a Hollywood release after Endgame and HP7/2.

[Steven]

Lion King Saturday  box office:€2,744,269

Total:€10,784,423