BadAtGender Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Big Hero 6 swept the animation awards at the VES last night: http://deadline.com/2015/02/dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-wins-ves-award-visual-effects-in-a-visual-effects-driven-movie-1201366485/ So I'm wondering how predictive these wins are for the Oscar. The Outstanding Animation award at the VES has been given since 2008. In that time the film that won there also won the best animated feature Oscar except in 2010. HTTYD got the VES award over Toy Story 3 but lost the Oscar race. The Outstanding Animated Character award has been given since 2002. It's also lined up with the Oscar winner every year except 2010 (HTTYD again), 2006, and 2002. We can probably discount 2002, as well. There were only two films nominated: Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron and Stuart Little 2, which won. However Stuart Little 2 wasn't really an animated film to begin with. In 2006, Cars won the character animation award at the VES, but Happy Feet won the Oscar. So it seems they line up with the Oscars more often than the Annies do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezen Baklattan Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 BH6 may end up winning, IMO. It has a lot of support from tech guilds and the Annie Awards have something of a predisposition towards DWA. That, and I think Kaguya's support isn't quite strong enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Tiki Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 DreamWorks Animation is spending $1 million on their How to Train Your Dragon 2 Oscar campaign: http://www.thestreet.com/story/13045414/1/dreamworks-animation-spends-1-million-to-win-oscar-for-your-dragon-2.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murgatroyd Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 DreamWorks Animation is spending $1 million on their How to Train Your Dragon 2 Oscar campaign: http://www.thestreet.com/story/13045414/1/dreamworks-animation-spends-1-million-to-win-oscar-for-your-dragon-2.html That's over 10% of the total budget of Song of the Sea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) DreamWorks Animation is spending $1 million on their How to Train Your Dragon 2 Oscar campaign: http://www.thestreet.com/story/13045414/1/dreamworks-animation-spends-1-million-to-win-oscar-for-your-dragon-2.html It has been a loooooong time since DWA last won an Oscar. DWA's 2 wins is still more than Walt Disney Animation Studios' 1 win though. Edited February 17, 2015 by Mojoguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Freak Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 DWA's 2 wins is still more than Walt Disney Animation Studios' 1 win though. That's not a good thing, yo. Poor Lilo, unfortunate to come in the same year as Spirited Away. And Wreck-It Ralph was plain robbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) That's not a good thing, yo. Poor Lilo, unfortunate to come in the same year as Spirited Away. And Wreck-It Ralph was plain robbed. Much as I liked Brave, I myself would have preferred it Ralph won that year, that or Paranorman. Edited February 17, 2015 by Fancyarcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 My personal ranking: 1. How to Train Your Dragon 2 2. Big Hero 6 Haven’t seen Boxtrolls, SotS or TotPK. Predicted winner: How to Train Your Dragon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAtGender Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 My personal ranking: 1. How to Train Your Dragon 2 2. Big Hero 6 Haven’t seen Boxtrolls, SotS or TotPK. Predicted winner: How to Train Your Dragon 2 I'd currently rank them: 1. Kaguya (Arguably it's Takahata's best film.) 2. HTTYD2 3. BH6 4. Boxtrolls I won't get a chance to see Song of the Sea until the 27th, though. I hope for good things, since Secret of Kells is so fantastic. It's starting to look like a tossup between Dragon and Hero, though. If they were slightly weaker, I think Kaguya could sneak in for the deserved win, but it's probably not in the cards. Unfortunately, with the way the animation industry is looking, it's unlikely we'll ever get a situation where a plucky underdog can take the crown. There are no years that will have a truly weak slate to allow it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezen Baklattan Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I'd say the category is still a bit of a toss up: Dragon is the current frontrunner, but Kaguya has a small amount of really passionate support, and BH6 has a lot on fans in technical side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I'd say the category is still a bit of a toss up: Dragon is the current frontrunner, but Kaguya has a small amount of really passionate support, and BH6 has a lot on fans in technical side. The winner is going to end up being what the grandchildren of the voters liked the most! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 So Dragon has already won this? I can't see BH6 winning since it hasn't won any major best animated movie award, they have all been going to Dragon or LEGO. The two foreign 2d movies will split the vote between each other. Boxtrolls has a small chance at a win if the vote splitting happens between the two blockbuster type movies Dragon and BH6. I have to say this year is so much more interesting than last year, when Frozen was pretty much the assured winner everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Saw Kaguya today. It's fucking fantastic. My second favorite film of 2014, behind Budapest. The other 4 are not even remotely close to the masterpiece status of Kaguya. Saw Song of the Sea tonight, and might be my second fav of the bunch but still nowhere near Kaguya. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Brutally Honest Oscar Ballot No. 5 ➻ BEST ANIMATED FEATURE I only watch the ones that my kid wants to see, so I didn't see [The] Boxtrolls but I saw Big Hero 6 and I saw [How to Train Your] Dragon [2]. We both connected to Big Hero 6 — I just found it to be more satisfying. The biggest snub for me was Chris Miller and Phil Lord not getting in for [The] Lego . When a movie is that successful and culturally hits all the right chords and does that kind of box-office — for that movie not to be in over these two obscure freakin' Chinese fuckin' things that nobody ever freakin' saw [an apparent reference to the Japanese film The Tale of the Princess Kaguya, as well as the Irish film Song of the Sea]? That is my biggest bitch. Most people didn't even know what they were! How does that happen? That, to me, is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. MY VOTE: Big Hero 6 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/brutally-honest-oscar-ballot-no-773905 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Animated Features Films Bring The Magic As Academy Celebrates The Nominees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murgatroyd Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Brutally Honest Oscar Ballot No. 5 ➻ BEST ANIMATED FEATURE I only watch the ones that my kid wants to see, so I didn't see [The] Boxtrolls but I saw Big Hero 6 and I saw [How to Train Your] Dragon [2]. We both connected to Big Hero 6 — I just found it to be more satisfying. The biggest snub for me was Chris Miller and Phil Lord not getting in for [The] Lego . When a movie is that successful and culturally hits all the right chords and does that kind of box-office — for that movie not to be in over these two obscure freakin' Chinese fuckin' things that nobody ever freakin' saw [an apparent reference to the Japanese film The Tale of the Princess Kaguya, as well as the Irish film Song of the Sea]? That is my biggest bitch. Most people didn't even know what they were! How does that happen? That, to me, is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. MY VOTE: Big Hero 6 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/brutally-honest-oscar-ballot-no-773905 What a jackass. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Freak Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 One benefit of HTTYD2 winning is that it hopefully provides DWAS an incentive to focus on quality and intelligence for their films despite Dragon's lukewarm BO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Honestly, I want Dragon to win more to acknowledge the first film, even the second film is still good in my eyes. Wouldn't mind either of the foreign ones to win either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldawg626 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 "Just give it to Disney" What I assume the voting committee of the Animation awards basically does when it's time to do their job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Freak Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 "Just give it to Disney" What I assume the voting committee of the Animation awards basically does when it's time to do their job. DAT FROZEN EFFECT! Hiro and Baymax avenged Ralph and Vanellope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...